新闻出处(必填): CelticsBlog 作者: Jeff Clark so, in case you missed it, I made a really bad decision by requesting your "best" trade ideas. I'm not going to link to the post because I'm afraid you people will keep submitting them. My eyes, they burn. Can't un-see. (Note: I say this all with a smirk on my face. So please don't take anything personally.) Now I must admit. They aren't all bad. Some of them are well thought out and reasoned. Some are sarcastically funny. Some are unintentionally funny, which is even better. But there are just too many to cover in just one post so I'll drag this out a bit and split them into categories. The first category is Rajon Rondo ideas. These will get the most attention anyway so we might as well start here. He's our biggest only star. He also happens to be my binkie right now, so of course I hate all these ideas. Still, I will do my "best" to stamp down the gag reflex and review these as objectively as I can (which is to say not at all). 简单讲Jeff对最近RR的交易流言感到厌烦了，相信许多板友有一样的想法；一不作二不休 ，他向网友徵求一系列幻想的RR交易案，一次吐槽吐个爽。 1.Celtsfanforlife 「 Lakers in: Rondo, late 2014 1st rounder from Pheonix Pheonix in: Gasol Celtics in: Okafer, Lakers 2014 1st rounder unprotected 」 Lakers: They get another start to pair with Kobe. Kobe loves Rondo. Suns: We know they want Gasol and this is about the right price. Celts: They get another great lottery pick. And Lakers will be horrible with no Kobe or Gasol." 湖人得到KOBE最爱的软豆(混蛋认证)，太阳拿到姐姐挡一下季後赛，C"s拿到湖人乐透签 Nope. I can't even imagine trading Rondo for a draft pick until the draft order is set for 2014, which would be too late for the Lakers purpose of shedding salary at the deadline. Jeff：无法想像只是拿RR去换个乐透签，而且对湖人而言要省税也太晚了。 感想：.......湖人？ 2.Chattceltic 「 Celtics- Stuckey,Drummond,Villeneuva,1st rd 2014 Pistons- Rondo,Wallace, clippers 1st" 」 活塞出装猛、两张到期约跟14年一轮签换来RR、G蛙跟快艇明年的一轮签 Pistons get rondo, we dump Wallace and get the athletic rim protecter we've always wanted I think the Pistons say no to this one. Drummond is untouchable right now and adding in all that salary doesn't help. Jeff：活塞根本不可能动装猛。 感想：干赚翻快换。 3.Steve 「 Detroit gets: Rajon, Rondo, Brandon Bass, and Gerald Wallace Boston gets: Greg Monroe and Brandon Jennings 」 活塞得到RR、B.Bass、GW，C's得到梦罗跟建宁。 "Detroit gets a talented point guard to pair with longtime buddy Josh Smith, while clearing out their frontcourt logjam Boston gets a huge upgrade at PF/C while dropping an albatross contract " This makes more sense, but I still hate it. Adding Monroe and dumping Wallace isn't enough of a draw for me to replace Rondo with Jennings. Do not want. Jeff：这方案看来合理多了，但不认为为了得到梦罗以及清掉G蛙就去动到RR。 感想：合理但没必要。 4.behaviorla 「 Boston trades Rondo and Wallace to Detroit for Monroe, Villanueva, Stuckey and Singler 」 RR加上GW去换来梦罗、两张到期约跟Singler(who?) Detroit gets Rondo who they supposedly covet. Celtics get a young center who complements Sullinger, two expiring contracts and a young outside shooter in Singler. Detroit also frees up money to sign Drummond to a max extension when they could lose Monroe in free agency Getting better (no Jennings) but still don't like it. I like Monroe, just not THAT much. Jeff：这笔看来感觉良好(不用吃下建宁合约)，但仍然不觉得梦罗好到要用RR换。 感想：跟上一笔一样，虽然有赚但是交易执行的必要性很低。 5.saltlover 「 Utah receives: Rajon Rondo Gerald Wallace Boston receives: Trey Burke Rudy Gobert Richard Jefferson Brandon Rush 2014 1st round pick from Utah (unprotected) 」 爵士吃下RR跟GW，C's得到14首轮跟TB以及两张到期约+Gobert(who?) "Utah has an interesting young core of Derrick Favors, Gordon Hayward, Enes Kanter, and Alec Burks. Theoretically Trey Burke is supposed to be the point guard at the helm of this core, but if you were Utah, wouldn't you rather have a multiple-time All-Star leading that group instead of a promising rookie? Sure, it's a hefty price, especially since that 2014 pick is going to be a lottery pick this year, but right now you're losing the race to even be in the top 5 for lottery balls, and you're getting a franchise point guard. You also still have Golden State's pick which is currently #22 overall, but only 2 games from falling into the lottery itself. 犹他有许多年轻的核心──Favors、Hayward、Kanter以及A.Burks，尽管失去TB代价不小 ，但可以得到一个全明星球员的带领；再考虑到爵士在炉主竞争中渐渐丧失优势(公鹿 表示：)，以及手上还有一支勇士的首轮──一支离乐透区仅有两场胜差的签，使得交易变 得可能。 The Celtics get a point guard who has the potential to be a team-leading player in his own right (Utah's record has improved markedly since Burke returned from his finger injury that cost him the first several weeks of the season), a rim-protecting center with potential, and an extra pick and lottery balls near the top of this loaded draft class. With the contracts of Jefferson and Rush expiring, they also clear off at least $16 million in salary for next year, after figuring in the salary owed to the extra draft pick. This would start to put them in max-free agent territory (assuming there was a free agent worth the max whom they could convince to come here)." tl;dr (too long; didn't read) C's得到一个未来的领袖(爵士在TB回归後有着出色的战绩)以及一个超级乐透签，还能够 多清出薪资空间去对自由球员开出顶薪，再者!@##%$^(太长不看了) Basically it is a salary dump and we get Burke, Gobert, and a lottery pick. Again, let's see how the ping pong balls bounce. Jeff：基本上这就是把我们的薪资整个倾倒过去，再看看下面还有甚麽。 感想：爵士的钱包就是我的钱包。 6.BoTown Celts 「 BOSTON IN Kyrie Irving Earl Clark Dion Waiters BOSTON OUT Rondo Jeff Green CLEV OUT Kyrie Irving Earl Clark Dion Waiters Varejeo CLEV IN Rondo Josh Smith DETROIT OUT Josh Smith DETROIT IN Jeff Green Varejao" 」 三方交易，活塞出贾许，C's出RR跟Green，骑士出KI跟服务生+大V以及Clark(who?) I love Rondo, but this gives Celts a chance to start with a younger core when Kyrie comes in in place of Rondo. Celts would retain their 2014 1st round picks in this scenario, so they can add 2 more young guys to Kyrie and Sullinger (and hope to resign Bradley). Rondo is happy because he gets to team up with his buddy Josh Smith and Detroit is happy because Jeff Green can replace Smith at 9M instead of 14M and has 1 less yr remaining on his contract (they also can use Varejao next yr as trade bait since he will be expiring). 尽管RR深受喜爱，但C's可以得到用更年轻核心重建的机会，加上自己的14首轮签，可以 再选进两名年轻球员辅助KI；而RR也会很开心的在骑士跟Josh打球，底特律也可以得到 更适合自己的Green以及大V的超值约。 Wut? I think you broke my brain. Jeff：WTF 感想：WTF 7.Prince Will 「 Celtics: Rondo, Wallace Lakers: Gasol, 2014 1st round pick" 」 RR+GW换来姐姐跟乐透签 "Lakers get Rondo so they can make their team better now in the remaining Kobe years. Celtics get a big expiring contract and a 1st rounder. Not really sure if Rondo is the guy to go with for the future." 湖人得到RR来辅佐Kobe，而C's得到超大张到期约──RR也不不见得是那个未来要的人。 Over my dead body. Jeff：踏过我的屍体先。 感想：(踏) 8.emaloy Rajon Rondo and Jeff Green for Omer Asik and Jeremy Lin 万用包换RR+Green "Real point guard and small forward backup for real center and fill-in point guard. Get set up to draft Dante Exum. Houston can win now (or get closer) despite what the Machine says. Celtics get a real center that can rebound and play defense. Lin goes in when contract expires? Celtics go into full rebuild mode. " 在明年选进Exum後让Lin打SG，再让超额薪资将C's打入重建地狱；火箭？爽得哩── Burn baby burn huh? Pass. Jeff：烧阿宝贝！烧阿！ 感想：准备丧屍入侵。 9.Anders 「 To Detroit: Rondo, Green, Asik To Huston: Humphries, Jennings, Singler + pick from celtics To Boston: Lin, Drummond, Monroe, Villanueva" 」 三方交易，万用包换得憨佛、建宁、、Singler加上C's的签，活塞得到RR、Green、Asik； C's得到林、装猛、梦罗、到期约。 "Detroit ready for playoffs Huston ready for contending Celtics ready to rebuild (with help from loaded draft either Wiggins, Parker or Exum would fit) ...nobody says no" 活塞得以打进季後赛、火箭得以增强竞争力,、C's爽到失禁；没人会说不的！ O RLY? Or maybe nobody says yes. Jeff：真的齁？你确定不是没人会说好？ 感想：是有多讨厌火箭哈哈。 10.SirGreen18 「 Rajon Rondo for Brian Scalabrine 」 Does it sound like it needs an explanation?! 这不需要解释 Tempting. Very tempting. Jeff：喔干好诱人 感想：留名历史就是此刻。 11.celticsgreen354 trade rondo,green clippers first round pick to pelicans for Anthony davis and holiday 豆子加小绿去换AD+Holiday the pelicans get a future point guard to build around and jeff at the 3 with eirc gordan at the 2 not a bad frontcourt and a pick to sweetin the deal the celtics get a a center they been craving for since the lost perk and a above average point guard.just a idea tell me what you think Anthony Davis I would totally do. The Pelicans, however, would totally not. Jeff：得到AD我愿意阿阿啊啊，鹈鹕一定不愿意阿啊啊啊。 感想：啊啊啊啊。 12.celticsfan8591 「 Celtics trade: Rajon Rondo Kings trade: Ben McLemore, Jimmer Fredette, Carl Landry, 2014 and 2017 first round picks (both unprotected) 」 RR换得卖柠檬、洗衣店、Fredette以及两张未保护首轮(14+17) "Why for the Celtics: This trade completes our rebuild. We get a top 10 pick in a loaded draft to pair with our own, a young two guard with All-Star potential in McLemore, a future pick that gives us two picks in each of the four drafts after this one. Landry has a bad contract, but he's a high character guy that won't rock the boat and we won't be needing cap space any time soon anyway. Jimmer can get a brief trial with the C's before his contract expires, at which point we either let him go or sign him as a shooter/fan favorite/potential Jabari buddy off the bench. With the picks this year I would envision us taking Rondo's replacement (either Exum or Smart) and the best frontcourt player available. 这样C's可以在未来几年选爽爽选翻天，其他三个球员就是充数用。 Why for the Kings: The trades they made for Rudy Gay and Derrick Williams seem to indicate that the Kings want to start contending for the playoffs. Isaiah Thomas is decent, but Rondo is a huge upgrade talent wise and provides the Kings with some championship experience. Rondo is also an alpha dog who has shown that he can go toe to toe with anyone on his best days, and the Kings have no one else who fits that description (unless Cousins matures and keeps developing as a player). Cousins' development may eventually be enough to get them to the playoffs, but in order to make any noise the Kings are going to need another star and the only way to do that is by trading for a star. Rondo is the only star perimeter player available right now aside from maybe Carmelo (and can you see Melo agreeing to go to Sacramento?)." 国王直接憾动西区，搞不好还会让Melo点头喔！ Trade makes us the Kings of the last several years. Do not want to be the Kings of the last several years. Jeff：称霸炉主第一次就上手。 感想：这样换比76人还谜啊。 13.Freeease1 「 to Orlando Magic - Rajon Rondo to Boston Two (2) 2014 first round draft picks, Nelson, Maxiell, Harkless, and Nicholson. 」 豆子换两张14首轮、南尼、麦克希尔、Harkless跟Nicholson this trade gives us three (3) Lottery picks in the first round of the 2014 draft in June Plus a fourth belonging to Atlanta from the nets. Nelson and Maxiell can be cut at the season's end lowering of Cap Hold thus placing us in a position to be a playeer in Free agency. and doing the draft as well. Orlando get the point guard who can turn their franchise around with the remaining talent they have. A win win for both clubs." 这让C's在明年有4张首轮签，尼尔森跟麦克希尔也可以在赛季结束时裁掉以保留空间追逐 自由球员；魔术则是在保留阵中天份的情况下得到一位全明星；双赢。 Again, I don't want to talk picks for Rondo without knowing where they land. A bushel of sub-star rookies does not add up to a Rondo. Also, the Magic probably don't mortgage the farm like that, so both teams probably say no. Jeff：让一个不明朗的新秀取代Rondo并不值得，而且，魔术的重建模式看来也不是这样走 感想：各不取所需 14.carn77 「 Celtics trades Rajon Rondo and Jeff Green Utah trades Andris Biedrins,Trey Burke,Gordon Hayward, and Rudy Gobert 」 RR+Green换得TB、黑娃、Biedrins跟Gobert。 "Celtics get two young promising players on rookie contracts in Burke and Gobert. I've seen this kid Gorbert play a few times he's a big strong shot blocker that can rebound and has a nice touch at the free throw line. Burke could be a great pg to replace Rondo. Celtics also reunite Hayward with Stevens and get Biedrins 9 million of the books at the end of the year. This deal saves the Celtics 6 million this year and down the road. C's得到TB来取代RR，也让黑娃跟帅哥教练重聚，Biedrins的到期约以及Gobert都可以 带来帮助 Utah gets a stud pg in Rondo on a friendly contract, and Green as a third or fourth option guy instead of being the go to man. A starting lineup of Rondo,Burks,Green,Kanter, and Favors could compete in the tough western conference. I think this trade is a win win for both teams " 爵士可以得到RR的超值合约，Green也不用再背负球队第一人的期待，R-B-G-K-F的强悍 阵容来年就可以冲击西区；我认为这是个双赢交易。 I'd rather keep Rondo and go after Hayward in free agency. Jeff：要抢黑娃等暑假不就好了？ 感想：(等) So to wrap this up, please let me summarize. 说够了来个总结吧 http://goo.gl/vy0iXf ＯＨ　ＮＯ。 感想：好不容易换了新电脑可以上来翻东西，结果旧硬碟坏档了....... --

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