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※ [本文转录自 NBA 看板 #1Iheq1jP ] 作者: evomichael (大麦克) 看板: NBA 标题: [外絮] Omer Asik talks progressing 时间: Mon Dec 16 13:17:49 2013 消息来源: http://espn.go.com/blog/marc-stein/post/_/id/779/omer-asik-talks-progressing Latest rumbles from the Omer Asik trade sweepstakes: There is no hard proof yet to support the theory -- first presented in this tweet from my USA Today colleague Sam Amick -- that the Houston Rockets already have a trade framework in place to solve their Asik conundrum and are only waiting to see if someone else out there steps up to beat the mystery offer between now and Houston’s self-imposed Thursday deadline to deal Asik. 消息指出火箭早就准备好多个交易Asik的计画 现在只是在等等看哪队的GM突然傻了拿一个好的包裹来换 However ... While strong rumbles persist that the Philadelphia 76ers are the team most likely to go along with such an arrangement, given the close ties between Rockets general manager Daryl Morey and Philly counterpart Sam Hinkie, there's fresh talk in circulation about another potential co-conspirator. 目前最有可能做出这个交易的是七六人 还有另一个可能性是塞尔提克 The Boston Celtics. The advice offered to us on Sunday was stern: Keep an eye on Boston. The Celtics possess two players in different salary ranges that would presumably fit in useful ways next to Dwight Howard: Jeff Green and Brandon Bass. The Celts also have a spare first-round draft pick or two to plug into any trade equation to sweeten the deal for Houston, amid rising suspicions around the league that Morey’s Rockets are going to find a way to come out of the Asik saga with at least one future first. 由於Morey希望在这个交易中至少捞到一个未来的首轮签 而老赛则刚好有一两个可以换得首轮签 拿Asik<--->J.Green(or B.Bass)+1~2个首轮签是有可能发生的 The same Rockets who happen to have a GM (Morey) and coach (Kevin McHale) who have long-standing relationships with Celts president Danny Ainge. So, yes, I’d say you should keep an eye on Boston. Question here that must be asked loudly: Can Houston, in whichever Asik trade it ultimately chooses, really afford to take back a player possessing substantial long-term money like Green (two seasons at $18.4 million after this one) or Philly's Thaddeus Young (two seasons at $19.4 million after this one) when it knows it's going to have to give an extension bump to Chandler Parsons as soon as Parsons is eligible for the raise his play merits via extension? 然而现在还有另一个问题 就是在火箭吃下J.Green(後两年共18.4M)或T.Young(後两年共19.4M)的合约後 还有续签Parson的空间和可能性吗 Which is another way of saying you shouldn't be surprised if Young gets routed to a third team should the Rockets and Sixers officially join forces to construct an Asik deal, as some observers have been expecting all month. 所以传出另一种交易可能就是找第三队收下Young的合约 The latest signals out of Cleveland indicate that the Cavaliers like the thought of keeping Anderson Varejao better than the prospect of trading him for Asik. The Cavs haven't ruled themselves out of participating in the forthcoming Asik trade, sources say, but word is they'd prefer to join in as a third-team facilitator that helps Asik land in a different city. 前一阵子原本有传出A.Varejao<-->O.Asik 但是现在骑士的态度是倾向不直接换Asik来 而是在三方交易中当第三队收下Young或其他球员 ESPN.com reported Friday that the Rockets, for the record, would not be willing to do an Asik-for-Varejao trade straight up regardless. 简单来说就是骑士不想收Asik但不排斥把Varejao丢掉 As stated Friday morning in our most recent Asik post, trying to gauge Atlanta's true willingness to part with the floor-stretching Paul Millsap -- whom Houston naturally covets in this situation -- is a major challenge thanks to ever-coy Hawks GM Danny Ferry. Yet more than one longtime Ferry-watcher is convinced that what he's trying do in Atlanta is amass a collection of Millsaps (translation: coveted trade pieces) so he has enough of them to jump right into the heart of the bidding when the next NBA superstar becomes available via trade like we saw in February 2011, when Carmelo Anthony and Deron Williams were traded on back-to-back days before the deadline. The Ferry-led Hawks are way too coy to be completely ruled out of contention for Asik. But it appears, heading into the final few days of the Asik sweepstakes, that Atlanta prefers to wait for a bigger prize ... even though acquiring an elite rim protector like Asik would allow Al Horford to move to his preferred position of power forward. It was Dec. 6 when ESPN.com reported that the Rockets began telling teams that they were determined to trade Asik between Dec. 15 and Dec. 19, which would ensure that any player involved in the transaction could be re-packaged by his new team in a subsequent trade before the league's Feb. 20 trade deadline passes. Some 10 days into this exercise, numerous teams involved and on the periphery of the talks have indicated that they indeed expect the Rockets to take this all the way to Thursday to give themselves as much time as possible to find the best deal. Jonathan Feigen, longtime Rockets beat writer from the Houston Chronicle, quoted a "person with knowledge of the Rockets' thinking" earlier Sunday saying that the Dec. 19 deadline was set in part because Morey indeed already has an offer he knows he's willing to take. The source told Feigen: "It very likely will be a pretty complicated, three-way deal. There are a lot of moving parts." 上面那几段在讲跟老鹰讨论Millsap的交易的可能还有一些交易时间点的问题 Feigen also reported Sunday that Sixers center Spencer Hawes, with a far friendlier contract than Young's to use in a future move, as well as the ability to back up Howard at center if Houston keeps him, could well appeal to the Rockets more than Young does. 同时也有种可能是七六人会送出S.Hawes去火箭担任DH的替补 ----------------------------------------------------------- 所以归纳一下 目前有可能的交易方式是 火箭 七六人 骑士 (老赛) 送出 Asik Young or Hawes 米粉头 (Green or Bass+首轮签) 收入 米粉头+首轮签 Asik Young (Hawes+首轮签) (Green or Bass) ------------------------------------------------------------------- 转个文 让大家笑一下 安吉有可能被抢? --



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◆ From: 59.115.16.237 ※ 编辑: st900278 来自: 140.114.202.122 (12/16 14:46)
1F:→ jackysuyu :当笑话看看就好顺便看看一些某迷在妄想 12/16 14:47
这交易太夸张 火箭送一两个首轮 + Asik 或许还可以考虑 ※ 编辑: st900278 来自: 140.114.202.122 (12/16 14:48)
2F:推 dixongossip :没把GW丢走之前,不会挖这麽大坑给自己跳的 12/16 14:49
3F:→ oscar2005 :拿bass换的话应该还可以再加上二轮我觉得也划算 12/16 14:49
4F:→ oscar2005 :至於GREEN的话,让火箭不要想了! 12/16 14:50
5F:推 jackysuyu :现在大家都知道是阿喜想离开火箭有啥立场想抢人呵呵 12/16 14:51
6F:→ jackysuyu :连球迷也跟着莫雷化也真的蛮好笑的整天想抢劫想疯了 12/16 14:51
7F:推 NLchu :这个新闻毫无根据,只是提个新说法而已 12/16 14:56
8F:→ NLchu :敲夸张的:"火箭想要首轮签,Bos刚好有薪资吻合的人 12/16 14:57
9F:推 NLchu :而且可以适合辅助DH,你最好多注意Bos" 12/16 14:59
10F:→ NLchu :喂你喂到清一色平胡还要放枪给你爽就是了 12/16 15:00
11F:推 dixongossip :火箭版竟然有人提Lin+CP for AB+Green,我差点忍不住 12/16 15:04
12F:→ dixongossip :嘘下去闹版 12/16 15:04
13F:推 jackysuyu :火迷各各都莫雷啊虎扑还有火迷要林阿喜换RONDO跟SULL 12/16 15:07
14F:→ jackysuyu :尔且好笑的事还真的有火迷觉得合理还说SULLY背伤说不 12/16 15:07
15F:→ jackysuyu :定是火箭亏真够好笑的真的当29队都是火箭後花园啦 12/16 15:08
16F:推 g1cheerfor :阿西换BASS+LEE 12/16 15:08
17F:推 jackysuyu :看对岸有凯迷说火箭出林阿喜14首轮尼克出阿骂香坡 12/16 15:10
18F:推 ILLwill :说真的我不认为BOS多需要阿西 12/16 15:12
19F:→ jackysuyu :BOS出G挖LEE跟翰佛瑞3方交易火箭阿骂LEE尼克得G挖+林 12/16 15:12
20F:→ jackysuyu :+和佛瑞BOS得香坡阿喜14首轮照火迷想法这样也合理啊X 12/16 15:13
21F:推 NLchu :虎扑的东西看看就好...没啥好认真的 12/16 15:16
22F:→ NLchu :如果双方主菜是G蛙←→阿西,要补什麽我想是能考虑的 12/16 15:17
23F:推 ILLwill :拿hump单换我倒是接受,但不需要动选秀签,顶多加李 12/16 15:18
24F:→ ILLwill :我没查薪资,但重点是波士顿不是很缺长人 12/16 15:19
25F:推 NLchu :谋口林,12m拿到期约去帮火箭解套,是有没这麽好心 12/16 15:20
26F:推 jackysuyu :虎扑我都当笑话在看的啊 12/16 15:20
27F:→ NLchu :其实有缺,凯莉跟砂砾都是勉强在打C,靠拼劲在扛的 12/16 15:21
28F:→ NLchu :可是现在是火箭在跳脚,安吉不拿点东西回来不太可能 12/16 15:21
29F:推 ILLwill :如果是希伯等级就是一回事 12/16 15:23
30F:→ ILLwill :火箭无痛抢到DH後大概得意忘形了 12/16 15:24
31F:推 feelike :光明年Asik要实付15M,莫雷就没有资格去抢人了 12/16 15:26
32F:→ lanver1220 :凯莉嫩 莎莉矮 两个又小伤小痛,不认为是C的好选择 12/16 15:44
33F:→ lanver1220 :Asik换得到,我觉得是好事 12/16 15:45
34F:推 rubyyl0701 :我们缺C啊 但也还没缺到要被Morey抢 12/16 15:47
35F:→ yinchun :讨厌Asik的奶油手...完全不想换他 12/16 15:49
36F:推 NLchu :倒也不用这麽说,RR会想办法把球塞到他手上 12/16 15:59
37F:→ NLchu :抹胶水之类的 12/16 15:59
38F:推 rubyyl0701 :Asik来阿豆篮板助攻会一起下降XD 12/16 16:02
39F:→ xrichardx :Green...疯了吗 12/16 16:09
40F:推 jasonlin1993:我倒很乐观,安吉如果真的想重建就这样干吧(误) 12/16 17:19
41F:推 rainingdayz :这是钓鱼文吗? 12/16 17:54
42F:推 fk920 :真扯...... 12/16 18:01
43F:推 bhgkai :不可能丢选秀签.. 12/16 18:08
44F:推 NLchu :就单纯一个记者在YY阿 12/16 18:15
45F:嘘 happyegg1 :可悲...终身的绿血人就这样被卖了 12/16 18:24
46F:→ happyegg1 :更好笑的 这种不到4成5的可悲战绩 也能东区前4 12/16 18:25
47F:→ happyegg1 :波士顿如果挂pp的球衣那就更好笑了 12/16 18:26
48F:→ happyegg1 :一边莫名地把人卖了 一边挂球衣 12/16 18:26
49F:→ happyegg1 :如果我是pp 我就拒绝挂球衣! 不过现在看起来 能 12/16 18:26
50F:→ happyegg1 :不能挂球衣都还是是个问题 12/16 18:27
51F:推 rainingdayz :楼上迷路了吗? 12/16 18:28
52F:→ truth76901 :某楼要丢脸不用特地来好吗XDDD 12/16 18:32
53F:推 jackysuyu :影迷素质不意外老爱找2老麻烦篮网队版最近也有被闹 12/16 18:37
54F:推 idlypanda :干嘛帮火箭清烂约XD 12/16 18:40
55F:推 mog044 :阿不就好棒棒 12/16 18:47
56F:推 lanver1220 :看来是迷路了,然後没人跟他吵 他因该很空虚 12/16 18:54
57F:→ lanver1220 :要Asik做跟Love一样 用手指做伏力挺身,增加手指力量 12/16 18:57
58F:→ lanver1220 :不知道 来不来得即 12/16 18:59
59F:推 NLchu :结果手指受伤 12/16 20:11
60F:推 TT123 :Asik几乎都在伤停加摆工...我不相信Ainge会被抢 12/16 20:14
61F:→ TT123 :Ainge是那种慢慢磨到二边价码接近的人.. 12/16 20:16
62F:→ TT123 :丢Green也是非常不合理,丢Bass还有可能 12/16 20:16
63F:推 NLchu :以火箭的立场不贴签过来根本没有交易的必要性 12/16 20:20
64F:推 TT123 :我觉得火箭的立场很难讲,无论Asik是不想打 12/16 20:29
65F:推 gaiaesque :火箭还有parsons要养..没必要 给/要green 12/16 20:29
66F:→ gaiaesque :只是asik以正统中锋而言是很不错的 12/16 20:30
67F:→ TT123 :还是教练不给上场,总之留着对球队效益不高 12/16 20:30
68F:推 TT123 :这种情况下火箭不值得留着去付明年的15M合约 12/16 20:33
69F:→ TT123 :此外火箭本来就打算交易二次,所以第一次只要求脱手 12/16 20:33
70F:→ TT123 :他目标是在交易大限前再打包买到自已要的球员 12/16 20:34
71F:推 lanver1220 :看Faverani能不能有10%机会养成Pekovic那样 12/16 21:00
72F:→ lanver1220 :目前看似不可能,但是Peko也是第二年才站稳轮替阵容 12/16 21:01
73F:→ NLchu :5%都没有吧= = 12/16 21:14
74F:推 gaiaesque :fav多养一点吧...毕竟欧洲跟NBA节奏还是不同 12/16 21:14
75F:推 lalascott :15M应该没有人想接手吧 不如问Hump要不要便宜续签还 12/16 22:49
76F:→ lalascott :比较实在 12/16 22:49
77F:推 criminal :真的 我还比较想要留憨佛 12/16 23:02
78F:推 gaiaesque :hump我还好...有sully+kelly了 12/16 23:14
79F:推 NLchu :遇到强中锋还是死很惨,好歹也找个高点的柱子来挡路 12/16 23:15
80F:推 lanver1220 :Faverani:高柱?? 我听到有人在说我? 12/16 23:22
81F:推 NLchu :Fav连挡路都有点问题阿...BBB然後就下场了 12/17 00:51
82F:推 mikazeray :用小绿+首轮签换...头壳换掉吗 12/17 00:56
83F:推 xdd1524 :fav第一年打nba是要他打多好zz 12/17 06:39
84F:→ xdd1524 :peko第一年平均上13.6分钟 5.5分3板 2.8次犯规 12/17 06:41
85F:→ xdd1524 :Fav平均15分钟 5.1分4.2板 2.3次犯规 12/17 06:42







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