作者nogoodlaugh (Lucky Ball)
看板Celtics
标题[外电] Look Ahead: Trade For Nocioni?
时间Sat Sep 19 15:27:01 2009
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作者: Jeff Clark
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Tom Ziller of Sactown Royalty brings up an interesting question for Kings
fans. Should Andres Nocioni be traded? The overwhelming response seems to
indicate that he should be. The Kings are rebuilding and focusing on youth
and saving money for next offseason. Nocioni doesn't help them with either
priority.
国王的球迷们 你觉得Nocioni该被交易吗? 一面倒的回覆都是交易他吧
因为国王正在重建 需要在意的是年轻的新血以及为了下一季清出薪资空间
The question that exists now is whether heart and spirit (and the
aforementioned talent) is still a need to the degree it was, and if not
whether Nocioni's $21 million heart and spirit (and talent) makes enough of a
difference to hold onto him beyond the trade deadline, assuming there are
suitors?
不重要~
The aforementioned $21 million is what Nocioni is owed over the next 3
seasons (he has a team option for a 4th year as well). As mentioned, that is
quite a paycheck for a guy that is more heart than talent. But while he
doesn't do much for a rebuilding team, he'd be an excellent fit on a
championship contending team. Could the Celtics be interested ...again?
接下来三季Nocioni的薪资要2100万镁 这价钱超值 但这对重建中队伍没意义
他应该去的是有夺冠竞争力的球队 而C's会对他感到兴趣吗?
Rumors from the trade deadline indicate that the Celtics and Kings were in
serious trade negotiations for Nocioni. Chad Ford reported the following at
the time.
去年交易截止前有乳摸说C's跟国王在筹划交易~
We've heard conflicting claims from both teams on who withdrew first.
Yet we do have agreement that the Celtics and Kings talked seriously Thursday
about sending Nocioni to Boston, which seemingly would have been a huge coup
for that team, given the hole created by James Posey's departure in the
offseason. Nocioni is a rugged, versatile, 2-position forward who does a lot
of the same stuff Posey did.
当时C's认真的在谈这笔交易 Nocioni可以填补Posey的空缺 他是个好的摇摆人
The deal likely would have required Boston to part with at least four players
from its oft-criticized bench: Glen Davis, Brian Scalabrine, Patrick O'Bryant
and the injured Tony Allen.
那时的交易名单包括大宝 吉祥物 O'Bryant & ToAllen
Since that trade was discussed, Glen Davis improved his game (and resigned
with the team) and Tony Allen came up short on what may be his last chance to
prove himself in Boston. Also, the Celtics have added Rasheed Wallace and
Marquis Daniels and the Kings have added more young players to the mix. But
would these teams revisit these talks sometime before the trade deadline?
但是当那交易在讨论时大宝证明了自己的能耐(也续留在C's了)
ToAllen也回到场上 希望能抓住最後一个证明自己的机会
当然 C's也补进了Sheed 和 丹丹 但国王跟C's还会再次谈起这交易吗?
For the Kings, the pricetag on Nocioni may be coming down. Tom Ziller
concludes:
Now, is an expiring contract enough incentive to trade Nocioni? Moving him
for $0 in 2010-11 salary would give the Kings $18-22 million in cap space
next summer. (Enough to sign LeBron!) But given the likelihood of the Kings
actually spending $18-22 million next summer, perhaps trading for talent or
draft picks with salary relief as a minor concern could be in order.
将Nocioni交易出去可以在明年清出18~2200万镁的空间(都够用来签李柏榕了!)
但是国王在明年夏天花两千万的机率极低 更有可能的是交易来一些乐透签或是
有潜力的球员
So they would like to get talent and cap space for Andres, and who can blame
them? But who knows what other offers they will receive before the deadline?
For the Celtics, I do think they'd still be at least interested. He has a
fiery tenacity that makes him perfect for playoff basketball. Like Posey
before him, he would be able to fill in for Pierce and take some of the
defensive assignments that Marquis Daniels wouldn't be able to handle because
of his lack of bulk. In fact, if Pierce ever missed any time this year, I
would think that this deal would at least be revisited as an option. He does
have a large deal (which is what scared Ainge off of Posey last summer), but
the annual salary actually decreases each year.
那谁能给国王有潜力的球员呢? C's还是对Nocioni有兴趣的
Nocioni有强烈的韧性 让他能在季後赛做出贡献 就像Posey之所做的
它能补上PP 然後防守一些丹丹守不了 比较大只的球员 事实上 假如PP今年缺席了
某些比赛 这交易就会再次被放到台面上 虽然Nocioni的确不便宜(跟Posey喊出的让安吉
打退堂鼓的价钱差不多) 不过至少他每年的薪资是逐渐在减少的~
(感谢RonArtest93 feelike大大提供情资~)
The principals are still in place for a deal. The Celtics can still offer
Scalabrine and Tony Allen as expiring contracts. The trade checker rejects a
straight deal of Scal and Tony for Nocioni but it only falls about 7K short.
I'm sure the Kings would like someone like Bill Walker. Perhaps Ainge would
be willing to give them Walker or Giddens (whomever falls behind on the depth
chart). Draft picks don't count in salary matching purposes, so that's not
necessary unless the teams think there's an imbalance in value.
C's可以提供吉祥物&ToAllen的到期合约 但这被驳回 因为薪资还差了7K
不过国王应该会对一些年轻小将有兴趣exB.Walker 或许安吉会给国王Walker或
Giddens
So what do you think? Would you want to trade for Nocioni? What would you
be willing to give up? When would you want to make such a deal (now or at
the deadline)?
所以你们是怎麽想的呢?会想交易来Nocioni吗?又愿意用什麽去换他呢?
何时要做这笔交易呢?现在还是交易期限截止前?
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1F:→ nogoodlaugh :幻想一下..先发 09/19 15:32
2F:→ nogoodlaugh :C: Perk PF: KG SF: PP SG: RA PG: Rondo 09/19 15:33
3F:→ nogoodlaugh : 替补 09/19 15:33
4F:→ nogoodlaugh :C: Sheed PF: 大宝SF: Nocioni SG :丹丹 PG :房子 09/19 15:34
5F:推 fascinated :这是当年的拓荒者吗 XDDDDDD 09/19 15:44
6F:→ nogoodlaugh :说真的这交易成功的话 替补可能打得赢国王先发 09/19 15:48
※ 编辑: nogoodlaugh 来自: 118.161.169.149 (09/19 15:59)
7F:推 feelike :感谢翻译呀 希望换的过来!!! 09/19 15:59
8F:推 kevinGODnett:他不错 有外线又够硬 09/19 18:23
9F:推 johnjohn1330:要拿大宝去换的话替补就不会有大宝啦= = 09/19 18:37
10F:推 noahlin :如果没伤兵的话应该是不用换吧 换了明年RA大概留不住 09/19 19:20
11F:推 tenderallen :别忘了我们有TO!!! XD 09/19 21:32
12F:→ tenderallen :换吧!!! 09/19 21:32
13F:推 r9210117 :换了我们还空出一间空间可以签老将 嘿嘿 09/19 21:34
14F:推 NLchu :.......... 09/19 22:00
15F:→ NLchu :何必转去总版呢 09/19 22:01
16F:→ NLchu :到期合约很好用的,不能这样一昧追求眼前的利益 09/19 22:01
17F:→ nogoodlaugh :转总版是因为 总版版主希望多点外电.. 09/19 22:30
18F:推 lanver1220 :绿血王朝~绿血王朝~绿血王朝~绿血王朝~绿血王朝~ 09/20 00:05
19F:推 NLchu :这篇自high成分太高了,不是美国人自high就比较有理 09/20 00:06
20F:→ NLchu :不过我佩服原po的勇气= = 09/20 00:07
21F:推 Quickspace :换吧! 赞! 09/20 09:40
22F:→ tzar :这篇真的太自HIGH了,不过我不是很喜欢Nocioni的打法 09/20 20:17
23F:推 holyduck :Nocioni是个硬汉 但Daniels也ok 真不行季中再来看看 09/21 00:44
24F:→ atyin :我也觉得换会影响雷枪续约...那还是不要好了= = 09/21 02:34