作者LinChihChei (我是MVP林志杰)
看板Celtics
标题Re: [外电] Big Baby相关讨论
时间Wed Jan 14 14:31:48 2009
※ 引述《calbert (Yummy)》之铭言:
: Big Baby is shooting 35% from the field on the year. It’s hard to look away
: from that, even if he does take less than 4 shots a game. It is a small
: sample size, but either way that’s not just bad, its horrific. Especially
: for a big man who does not shoot 3s. I mean, Eddie House’s fg% is higher
: than that, and he’s a guy who takes almost 70% of his shots from behind the
: arc. So until Davis starts hitting some shots, haters certainly have a lot to
: hate about, I’m not doubting that.
: However, if you look at last year, the same guy was shooting 48% from the
: field. Some of this can definitely be attributed to the addition of a 15 foot
: jump shot to his game. But his finishing at the rim just hasn’t been as
: strong. He didn’t have hops last year either, so I’m not buying that just
: because he can’t jump out of the gym he will never be a good finisher at the
: rim. Ryan Gomes was an excellent example of a player for the Green that was a
: great finisher down low without having a lot of athleticism. Give Davis some
: time, just like we did with Rondo, and you might regret ever doubting him to
: begin with.
(大宝众)
大宝本季的FG仅达到35%,你很难不去注意到这样的成绩,即便他一场比赛出手不到四次
虽然只是小小的样本数,但这代表的不只是糟糕而已,他烂得令人害怕!
再者,大宝是个不投三分线的长人,但是他的FG%竟然比Eddie House还低,
House的出手次数可是有将近七成都是三分远程炮火耶,
无疑的,只有大宝自己多搞进一些球,才能让憎恶他的人停止憎恶他
然而,同样的一个大宝在去年的命中率达到了48%,这当然可以部分归因於他在比赛中
加重了15尺跳投的比例,但他去年同样的也是飞不起来的肥牛,
所以我并不接受因为他跳不起来所以他无法最终把球搞进篮框这样的说法,
Gomes就是一个很好的例子,他并不具备出色的运动天赋,但却很能将球搞进篮框......
多给大宝一些时间吧,就像我们对於Rondo一样,
而我们将很可能会後悔曾经这样子在一开始质疑他的能力
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: he hasn’t fallen out of favor…give it some time…Powe isn’t utilizing his
: full post game, which I believe to be a product of infrequency of use – post
: play is about rhythm and if you don’t have it then your game can be erratic…
: The team knows that Powe is a far better PF than Davis – Davis is getting
: his shot to prove otherwise through extended minutes and has not done so…
: even assuming Davis is appreciably better defensively -which he’s not,
: (marginally better maybe) – Productivity is still king in this league.
: The team knows that Leon can be highly productive, so developing the nuances
: in his game is a much better value proposition than hoping Davis can lose
: 30lbs and figure out how to make an impact statistically.
: That “little things” argument is the same one we bashed Scal for all those
: years….Little things are very important, but if you are going to play 15-25
: minutes, you have to be productive statistically too…Celtics know Powe can
: put up the numbers and hold his own in man defense – they will work to
: develop the rest of his game….Davis I doubt sees another TC with this team…
(李庸魄众)
"他还没失去爱~~~"..."给他多一点时间~~~..."...(酸大宝ing)
Powe并未完全展现他低位单打的能力,这是我认为他很少用的招数;然而,
低位单打攸关打球的节奏,如果你没有这一招,那你的比赛内容将是不稳定的
球队知道Powe是远优於大宝的大前锋,大宝正努力的把球搞进去以俾获得多一点上场时间
然而大宝却尚未做到...
即便普遍评论认为大宝防守上略好一些(事实上他并没有,或许边际防守效益有较好...)
在场上展现的生产力与效益仍然是联盟挂帅的评估指标
队伍知道李庸魄能够提供高度的效益产出,因此将球队比重放在他身上,
是比期待大宝瘦30磅更有意义的...
"小事"的争议也是这几年我们一直批评斯卡拉布林的,
见微知着,轻话重听,小细节当然是非常重要的,但如果你要上场打个15-25分钟,
数据效益的产出也是非常重要的,队伍知道李庸魄能够一方面达到不错的数据;
一方面也做好防守本分,队伍将根据这点让他接下来能继续好好表现他的优点,
大宝,我想他将会是球队的另一个"TC"(什麽是TC?)
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: Really, the best way to utilize Davis would be to just have him crushing
: people on picks all night long, and teach him to roll instead of fade. His
: newly unveiled jumper that he’s been green-lit for this season sucks, to be
: fair. If he gets the ball on a cut he’s a threat to get fouled or to use his
: passing ability.
: Really, what Doc has tried to do this season is to turn Big Baby into Ryan
: Gomes 2.0 with the pick and pop play. It’s not working. And he’s the type
: of player that gets frustrated with himself when he misses a shot he should
: have made or screws up a rotation. He then gets mentally irregular, which
: leads to more mistakes. If all he did was box people out and set picks and
: not worry about the rest, the game would come to him a lot easier than it
: does now.
(大宝使用方法Read Me)
真˙的˙!运用大宝最好的方式就是让他整晚在挡人上击溃对手,
并且指导他利用转身来代替抽送的假动作...平心而论,这个球季教练团对他的跳投开绿灯
而他新揭幕的跳投能力...烂透了,假如他是持球切入,那他还可能要个犯规,
或是好好利用他传球的功力
河流这一季尝试去做的就是把大宝转换成Gomes2.0版,打个挡切战术,这行不通...
而且大宝在没投进该进的球或是在本身的轮值上搞砸演出时,他会对自己感到失气失志,
这样子的异常心态总是让他犯更多的错,假如派给他的工作就是单纯的卡位跟挡人,
其他的他都不用担心的话,那他打起来将会比现在给他的复杂体系要简单的多
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: Ok so you’re claiming that you have an inside track on the reasoning for
: Glenn Davis getting minutes? I would appreciate some further explanation as
: to how you seem to know something the rest of us don’t. Unless that is you
: are just assuming. Either way, I’m confused by your post. Mainly because you
: go on for about 7 paragraphs telling me how much better Powe is than Davis,
: then sum up the reason why Davis is playing over him being that the gap isn’
: t big enough to matter, so showcasing the player they’d rather get rid of is
: just the smarter move.
: Outside of the first point I just made, there is another glaring problem with
: your theory. Danny and Doc would have to be pretty naive to think that they
: can showcase Glenn Davis right now and expect to reap any benefits from it. I
: mean you yourself just went on for again 7 paragraphs telling us how bad
: Glenn Davis is, and now your explanation for why he is playing is to showcase
: him, hoping that a Kevin Mchale of the NBA is out there licking his chops?
: That’s hypocritical and makes no sense.
: Also, I played the game at the collegiate level so I understand what
: rotations are. It’s not just about the pick and roll either, it’s mainly
: about being in the right or wrong places on defense. I’m not saying that
: Leon Powe is a horrible defender. If i was coming off that way, let me just
: say for the record I don’t believe that. What I believe is that Glenn Davis
: is extraordinarly good for a 2nd year player. His IQ is extraordinarly high
: for a 2nd year player. I, like you, actually believe Powe’s ceiling is much
: higher than Davis’. Simply for some of the reasons you’ve stated, we all
: know Davis is limited in some areas. Leon Powe has and will continue to
: improve in these areas that I feel he is currently inferior to Davis in.
: Little by little, as he grows up, he will probably soar past Davis on the NBA
: radar because he’s just more athletically gifted.
: Most important thing here is I was simply making the case for why Doc is
: playing Davis. I don’t necessarily agree with him. Like Van Gundy says “
: give me tangibles ova intangibles every day of the week.” I was simply
: making the case for why Glenn Davis should absolutely be in the rotation and
: ahead of Patrick O’bryant of all people. If I were the coach, Leon would be
: my third big man in this rotation, no question. But Davis would be my 4th and
: I wouldn’t be looking to replace him.
战文懒得翻了,反正就是在战李庸魄跟大宝谁比较威
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1F:推 shaopin :Tyson Chandler 01/14 15:12
2F:推 rayensighner:看到李庸魄我一时没法对应...里昂波~~~ 01/14 15:36
3F:推 woaine520 : 李庸魄 01/14 16:02
4F:推 AliGJapan :goodjob 01/14 17:05
5F:推 waterice12 :纯推Gomes当初如果没交易掉的话在阵中会很好用 01/14 17:23
6F:推 acmonkey :大宝贝没有那麽不堪 他还有六次犯规可以用 01/14 20:03
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8F:推 acmonkey :拿他当人墙或干肌肉活还是很有价值 01/14 20:08
9F:推 ihx00 :现在就是希望他能做好本分就好 01/14 20:22
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13F:推 PRINCELAND :Davis今年真的太爱投中距离了 偏偏好像没几过几球 01/15 09:40