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标题[外电] Putting Doc In Perspective
时间Mon Apr 28 16:24:33 2008
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Putting Doc In Perspective
Authored by Elrod Enchilada - February 21, 2008 - 11:50 pm
For most of Doc Rivers’ first three years as Celtics coach, the range of
debate concerning his performance ranged from “he is an absolutely terrible
coach” to “he is a decidedly below average coach.” Bill Simmons probably
owes Doc royalties for all the columns he wrote bashing the guy as the source
of the Celtics’ problems. Doc had very few defenders on the numerous message
boards, including RealGM, where I graze. This does not mean everyone was
bashing Doc, merely that those not in the hate-Doc crowd mostly remained quiet.
It was not a fight to get into, especially as the team sinked to the depths of
the league standings the past two years.
Doc Rivers身为 Celtics教练前三年的大部分时间,对於他表现争论的重点大致从”他
绝对是个糟糕的教练”到”他肯定是个低於水准的教练”。Bill Simmons 也许对Doc最
不满,在他的专栏里,他把Celtics问题的源头都归於这个家伙。Doc在各大讨论区里只
有很少的支持者,包括RealGM。这不代表大家都想要痛扁Doc,只是不属於反Doc的群众
始终保持沉默而已。这不是一场该跳进去的战斗 -尤其是当这支球队,过去两年沉到了
联盟战绩表的深处的时候。
I was one of the quiet voices. It was not so much that I thought Doc was a
great coach as much as I thought he was in an impossible situation to judge him
against other head coaches. No one in Doc’s position, I reasoned, could have
done much better. And I confess I found Doc to be an unusually likeable man of
integrity, so I was rooting for him to succeed. The difference between Doc and
Belichick, the genius, at the human level was night and day.
我是沉默的声音之一。这不代表我就认为 Doc是个伟大的教练,只是他处在一个不可能
的情况,让你没办法评断他和其他教练。我的理由是,没有人在 Doc这种位置会作的比
他好。我承认,我发现 Doc是个难得有这麽讨喜的、正直的人,所以我支持他会成功。
Doc和Belichick这个人间的天才的不同,就像黑夜与白天这麽大。
Now, of course, that is ancient history. The message boards are filled with
appreciative threads concerning Doc, often quite thoughtful and impressive.
Even Bill Simmons has backed off. Doc is no longer such a moron that he could
be outcoached by a caveman, as the avatar for one poster repeatedly announces.
当然了,现在这是个古老的故事了。现在讨论区充满了感激 Doc的文章,常常都是很体
贴和令人印象深刻的。即便 Bill Simmons都放弃立场了。Doc不再是个连穴居人当教练
都比他好的白痴,现在不断传颂地宛如天神下凡。
What was most striking to me during the rabid denunciation of Doc from 2004 to
2007, was the absurdly unfair and high standard most fans had for judging NBA
coaches. By that standard, very few coaches could stay employed for more than a
few months, let alone a season or two. Perhaps it is the nature of the beast,
or perhaps it is a function of the Internet and cable TV and our general
immersion in sports information that would have been unthinkable a few decades
ago.
在2004到2007年那段狂怒谴责 Doc的时间,对我来说印象最深刻的,是球迷评断教练的
超高标准,还有荒谬地不公平的。根据那个标准,很少有教练可以执教超过几个月,更
不要说一或两季了。也许这是野兽的天性,也或许是网路、第四台电视的功能、还有我
们对运动资讯的沉溺,在几十年前这是难以想像的。
Consider this.
考虑以下这点。
Imagine a team has the same NBA coach for six seasons. During those six seasons
this team has two first-team all-NBA players on three occasions, and a first
team all-NBA player the three other seasons. The team has three sure-fire Hall
-of-Famers in their prime for the last five of the six years. One of the three
players is commonly considered the very best player in the game during most of
these six years.
想像有支球队过去六年有同样一个教练。在这六年中,有三季球队中同时有两个联盟第
一队球员,另外三季有一个联盟第一队球员。这支球队有三个一脚踏进名人堂的球员,
过去五六年来都在黄金时期。三个中有一个球员普遍被认为,在过去六年大部分时间,
是联盟中最好的球员。
In other words, the team is loaded with talent, and only one other NBA team
over this six year period produces as many first and second team all-pros, and
no other team produces as many first-team all-NBA players.
换句话说,这支球队有足够的天份,过去六年中只有另一支球队有同样多的联盟第一队
,及第二队球员,没有其他球队有这麽多的联盟第一队球员。
If there is one iron law in NBA history, it is that the teams with the most
superstars tend to win championships. It is what any coach prays for, because
teams without first-team all-NBA talents almost never ever win NBA titles, or
even get close. Speed dial Phil Jackson if you want any elaboration on this
point.
如果 NBA历史有任何铁律,就是有最多超级明星的球队较可能赢得冠军。这是所有教练
都祈求的,因为没有联盟第一队球员的球队,几乎从没有赢过联盟冠军,连接近都称不
上。赶快打电话给Phil Jackson,如果你对这一点还想听更多阐释。
Imagine also that there was no other dominant team in the Eastern Conference
with it during these six years. It is not like this team played in the shadow
of some other dynasty.
想像在这六年中,东区里没有另外一支有主宰力的球队。这支球队没有在其他王朝的阴
影下打球。
So how did this team and this coach do over the course of these six seasons?
所以这支球队和教练在过去六年的表现如何呢?
In a word: terrible. This team did not win a title ever. This team did not even
make it to the NBA finals ever during those six years. Three times the team was
defeated in the opening round of the playoffs – being swept twice -- and three
times the team was defeated in the conference finals.
用两个字说:可怕。这支球队没赢任何一座冠军。这六年中甚至没有打进决赛。这支球
队在季後赛的第一轮被淘汰三次,两次被横扫,另外三季在东区决赛输球。
Moreover, the team never had the best record in the Eastern Conference. In
fact, the last two years of the six years in question the team produced is
worst winning percentages, exactly as its three superstars were at their peak
performance. One year it had a .500 winning percentage.
还有,这支球队从没有拿过东区第一的战绩。事实上,球队在最後两年的胜率是这六年
中最低的,也就是那三个超级明星最巅峰的时期。他们只有一年有五成以上胜率。
The coach of this team must have really sucked, right? What a bloody idiot. He
must make Doc Rivers of 2006-07 look like a combination of Albert Einstein and
Stephen Hawking. That coach must have been the team owner or something, because
this goes down as maybe the worst coaching performance in NBA history. Never
has so much talent accomplished so little.
这支球队的教练一定是糟透了,对吧?真是个超级大笨蛋。他让Doc Rivers在2006-2007
球季的表现像是爱因斯坦和霍金的综合体。这个教练一定是球队老板还是什麽的,因为
这也许是NBA历史里最差的教练了。从来没有这麽多天份,成就却这麽少。
As you probably guessed, the team I am describing is the Boston Celtics, circa
1950-1956. The three superstars are Bob Cousy, Bill Sharman, and Ed Macauley.
也许你会猜测到,我描述的这支球队是1950-1956年的波士顿Celtics。三个超级明星是
Bob Cousy、Bill Sharman和Ed Macauley。
The coach is none other than Red Auerbach.
这个教练不是别人,就是Red Auerbach。
Moral of the story: be patient when evaluating coaches. Red took a long time
before he coached a championship team in Boston. It took John Wooden even
longer, 16 seasons, to win his first championship at UCLA. Doc may not belong
in the same paragraph as those guys, but he is, at the very least, a highly
credible NBA coach.
这个故事的寓意:评断教练的时候要有耐心。红头在波士顿夺得冠军之前花了很长一段
时间。它花了John Wooden更久,16个球季,才赢得他在UCLA的第一个冠军。Doc也许匹
配不上这些家伙,但是最少他是一个非常可靠的NBA教练。
Here are the numbers:
Boston Celtics Annual Record:
Year / Record / Conference finish
1955-56 / 39-33 / .542 / 2 (6 GB)
1954-55 / 36-36 / .500 / 3 (7 GB)
1953-54 / 42-30 / .583 / 2 (2 GB)
1952-53 / 46-25 / .648 / 3 (2 GB)
1951-52 / 39-27 / .591 / 2 (1 GB)
1950-51 / 39-30 / .565 / 2 (2 GB)
Boston Celtics Playoff Performance:
50-51: lost 2-0 in first round (conference semi-finals)
51-52: lost 2-1 in first round (conference semi-finals)
52-53: won first round 2-0; lost 3-1 in conference finals
53-54: lost first round 2-0 (conference finals…one less round of playoffs
this year)
54-55: won 2-1 in first round; lost 3-1 in conference finals
55-56: lost 2-1 in first round (conference semi-finals)
Boston Celtics All-NBA seasons:
50-51: one first-team all-NBA (Macauley)
51-52: two first-team all-NBA players (Macauley, Cousy)
52-53: two first-team all-NBA players (Macauley, Cousy);
one second-team all-NBA (Sharman)
53-54: one first-team all-NBA player (Cousy);
one second-team all-NBA (Macauley)
54-55: one first-team all-NBA player (Cousy);
one second-team all-NBA (Sharman)
55-56: two first-team all-NBA players (Cousy, Sharman)
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本来想翻"失败是全队的贡献"那篇
後来看的很痛苦,就放弃那篇了XD
这篇也不错,看看历史吧。但是不代表Doc我明天对你有耐心啊~
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1F:推 NLchu :头推~辛苦了 04/28 16:33
2F:推 cyjoe :Doc最近几场表情都很轻松的样子 XDDD 04/28 16:30
3F:→ bri :但是Doc昨天听到山猫教头被火的时候很不爽 04/28 16:44
4F:→ cyjoe :应该是同理心...去年这个时候...还是小绿绿有人情味~ 04/28 16:50
5F:→ cyjoe :倒数第二没关系 我们带KG和RAY给你 好好带啊~~~ 04/28 16:52
6F:→ bri :对呀老鹰队的Woodson也同仇敌忾 同病相怜啊:p 04/28 17:04
7F:推 cyjoe :公鹿的更可怜 一放假马上就...我连名字都还没记住... 04/28 17:09
8F:推 DocRivers :我会好好带球队的 请大家放心 04/28 17:36
9F:推 wolves77920 :楼上本尊记住这句话阿 04/28 17:58