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※ [本文转录自 Timberwolves 看板 #1Jqhgfgr ] 作者: yyjack (小虎) 看板: Timberwolves 标题: [灌水] 小道消息 about Love's trade 时间: Sat Jul 26 04:14:31 2014 有没有发现在Andrew Wiggins宣布签约後 原本铺天盖地的rumor一夕消失了 加上之前骑士交易Unguaranteeds 要推论一些结果应该不难 但啥结论都还不用下 继续看戏比较开心XD 以下这个消息 来自灰狼讨论区 --------------------------------------------------------------- 一位朋友在Minneapolis体育馆 厕所上大号时 听到一位球团工作人员正在讲电话讨论交易事项 (人员身分是确定的) 此人便很认真的偷听并用手机记录听到的内容 保密防谍 人人有责阿~~~ 第三队会是"金块" 且分成两次交易来完成 内容如下: Cavs and Wolves are including the Nuggets in a 3-team deal. Trade will happen in 2 parts. The first part will happen next week. 1st part CAVS IN: Mozgov WOLVES IN: Nate Robinson + 2 non guarantees contracts from Cavs (Friend doesn't know which ones) NUGGETS IN: JJ Barea + Dellavedova + 2nd round pick from Wolves (Friend doesn't know which one) 2nd part CAVS IN: Kevin Love WOLVES IN: Bennett + Wiggins + (2) 1st round picks from Cavs (Friend doesn't know which ones) The first part of the deal will happen very shortly. Faried does not play a part in this deal. The Nuggets are not in the 2nd part of the deal at all. Just passing this along for I knew when I was told of this conversation by my friend I would put this up on REALGM ASAP. I find the deal interesting, although limited in nature. 第一部分交易很快就公布 Faried没有被放进认合包裹内 如果下周真的发生 那接下来的第二部分......嘿嘿嘿 One more important note to the conversation that my friend heard was that when Wiggins signed today it supposedly indicated that the Cavs decided to go with Mozgov in a 3 team deal instead of picking up a Stiemsma in free agency. My friend didn't quite understood the comment, and neither do I, but I thought I would pass it along as well. 另外一个补充, Wiggins的签约代表Cavs决定拿Mozgov而非签FA Stiemsma 不完整也没啥逻辑的一段话 可直接忽略 这份交易看来最不合理的是金块部分 为什麽要丢好用的Mozgoz换JJB+二轮签?? 感觉骑士的一轮签应该给他们 灰狼迷都不好意思拿了XD 合理化的说法是JaVale "My Boy" McGee要复出 加上Jusuf Nurkic要在本季加入 不想再养第三个C 再强调 这个消息非常非常小道 没有任何credibility 比twitter的可信度还低 如同这篇文章的分类<灌水> 预防接下来几天版太乾~XD 不过这篇讨论之後又有专家twitter消息发布 不小心稳合了 Jon Krawczynski @APkrawczynski After talking w/ Wolves, can say definitively Gorgui Dieng not on the table in any trade talks. KMartin name hasn't come up yet, either ~to be continued~~ -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 今天目前唯一新消息 公牛陈清Mirotic没有被放进包裹 如同之前我某篇推文提出的质疑 Mirotic应该是有拿到不交易承诺才愿意签字的 除非Rubio的灵气强到可以吸引他来北大荒XD 目前各种传言在未确定前都是可以质疑的 如同Cavs不愿意放AW T-Wolves不会放Dieng Bulls不放Moritic也是一样 我只是就我感觉合理的状况来分析 没有Moritic 难道要放Jimmy Butler?! 不然公牛这包差多罗 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Cavs代言人Sam Amico 唯一到现在还坚持Wiggins没放进包裹的专家 注意他是Ohio当地媒体 如同Wolfson是灰狼人马 昨天消息 Amico: "I can tell you within the last 24-48 hours, Dan Gilbert and the owner of the #Timberwolves talked." then...今天的消息 Royce Young @EyeOnBasketball Report: Wolves owner Taylor prefers Cavaliers' Wiggins offer for Love -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 以下为美国乡民列出的防守数据 Love防守不突出是众人皆知的事实 AB去年上场时间少 样本少 身材又失控 防守烂不意外 今年照理说会进步 至於Cavs交易超强万用包TT + DW 防守不好也是之前讲过的 所以......TT + DW的进攻可以像Love一样补回他们的烂防守吗? XD Wolves Kevin Love PER 26.9 NBA PER Ranking 5th NBA Defensive Points per Possession Allowed NBA Ranking 108th Cavs Tristan Thompson PER 14.9 NBA PER Ranking 159th NBA Defensive Points per Possession Allowed NBA Ranking 251st Dion Waiters PER 14.0 NBA PER Ranking 190th NBA Defensive Points per Possession Allowed NBA Ranking 280th Anthony Bennett PER 6.9 NBA PER Ranking 425th NBA Defensive Points per Possession Allowed NBA Ranking 442nd There were 482 NBA players last season with an average PER of 15.0. Each of the "established" Cavs players that you will be forced to take because of leverage had a below average PER and a defensive rating below the median. IOW they all suck. As will the picks you'll get. This is strictly a deal of Love for Wiggins' "potential." If I were the Wolves GM, I'd be looking at the Bulls or any other deal a lot closer than betting the house on a rookie who's raw and no sure thing. PER data from Basketball-Reference.com. Defensive PPP rankings from SynergySports. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 最後 美国讨论版那位坚持DW是Wade 2.0 换Love刚刚好的骑士迷还在继续奋战 只挑几个我看过会笑的灰狼迷回应 看过笑笑就好 * You and your cav fans buddies been running your mouths about how Wiggins for Love is not going to happen. Now you can see it is very reasonable, in fact cavs must add additional value. Now you are posting some stupid stuff like TT and Waiters for Gibson is worth entertaining. Also stop with the "we the north" crap. Minneapolis is much more northern than Toronto, we are the true north. * Tired of you people offer ridiculously stupid contrarian opinions, then moving onto less stupid demands and ideas like putting in Dieng as this trade progresses. Stop, understand how the NBA works, then listen about what the true value is of these NBA players. * So many Cavs fans are so unclassy I think I'd rather see Love traded to the Bulls. Be easier to root for him there with a much better fanbase... 但我比较想看另外一队崩溃耶~~~~ --



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1F:推 ronbaw:这......潜力新秀丢光了,这样好吗 07/26 11:58
2F:推 jay616616:个人觉得奂第一阶段就好了...MOZGOV来补内线就够了 07/26 12:15
3F:→ jay616616:刚刚看了以前的BOX 发现TT的篮板能力不输LOVE 在加上 07/26 12:15
4F:→ jay616616:补进那麽多外围射手 我们真的有必要把有潜力的球员送走 07/26 12:16
5F:→ jay616616:那麽多吗? 我实在不觉得炒短线是个很好的方式 07/26 12:16
6F:推 hump:第一love才26这根本不是炒短线第二TT跟love对球队的帮助不是 07/26 12:29
7F:→ hump:同一等级的,如果给力芬真的能换来love又盘来年轻内线,他可 07/26 12:29
8F:→ hump:以竞争最佳gm了 07/26 12:29
9F:推 librasky:这消息爆出来要成行机会应该变低不少 07/26 12:42
10F:推 kurahee:为什麽大家比较赞同TT+DW而不是AB+DW TT比AB好用不是吗? 07/26 12:54
11F:推 koyoer:AB现在完全没交易价值, TT至少还是双十潜力股 07/26 13:16
12F:推 nthubioin:AB毕竟是有潜力的状元且夏季联赛他打得不错 07/26 13:16
13F:推 jerod:请帮忙把灰狼板的推文修掉 07/26 13:16
14F:→ nthubioin:不过其实只要不动AW 要换TT还是AB都还OK吧 07/26 13:18
15F:→ nthubioin:而且感觉这篇可信度偏低 厕所偷听有点夸张 07/26 13:19
16F:→ nthubioin:上一篇那个就感觉可靠很多 因为Love一直都有放话 上面那 07/26 13:20
17F:→ nthubioin:篇很符合这暑假一系列他的一贯风格 07/26 13:21
※ 编辑: StupidDog (219.85.118.76), 07/26/2014 13:31:09
18F:推 joulin:所以这篇又变成有要丢AW了QQ 07/26 13:38
19F:推 r44621:有Mozgov可接受度就高多了 可是首轮签有必要丢到两只吗? 07/26 15:35
20F:→ r44621:虽然这消息感觉很芭乐wwwwww 07/26 15:36
21F:推 jinpenchi:这样骑士单方的亏,不过这也是对方比较想的交易 07/26 15:51
22F:→ jinpenchi:有人觉得TT+AB也可以交易,这个组合就蛮少的 07/26 15:52
23F:→ jinpenchi:毕竟是换Love,大V也要移到替补PF也比较耐战 07/26 15:52
24F:推 koyoer:我觉得不动到AW 丢谁都可以 选秀权几个 DW TT AB 都可以 07/26 15:53
25F:→ jinpenchi:交易海獭 Waiters就要留下来,J.Harris其实也可以丢 07/26 15:54
26F:→ jinpenchi:这种射手好找,而且MM+Allen就没他的位子了 07/26 15:55
27F:→ jinpenchi:其实孟罗也可以交易看看,不过丢DW给他们感觉在资敌.... 07/26 15:55
28F:推 koyoer:DWㄧ定会被丢,毕竟是里面最值钱的包裹,但灰狼只想要空间 07/26 16:01
29F:→ koyoer:七六人三方交易如何?? 07/26 16:01
30F:→ shangyen:七六人也要看吧~ 没好处他们干麻当第三方 07/26 16:35
31F:→ shangyen:蛮现实的一个问题 毕竟76人应该下季没意外还是坦吧 07/26 16:36
32F:推 koyoer:DW他们有兴趣..不过没必要当好人 07/26 16:44
33F:推 jinpenchi:Waiters家乡就在那边,这样资敌对以後有威胁...... 07/26 18:09
34F:推 jinpenchi:Waiters找6尺6控球配比较好,只有76人、爵士适合 07/26 18:19
35F:推 forever23:拿DW去换禁区的柱子 07/26 19:05
36F:推 NuCat:AW一割则天下人心皆去 朕何以为天下主 07/26 22:22
37F:推 super1315566:推 07/27 15:10







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