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当初大Z跟LBJ一起去热火,是热火为了安抚LBJ不安的心所作的措施之一 否则大Z和热火的打法其实格格不入 现在LBJ强力的想要招募三个射手MM Ray JJ来骑士则是想要树立一种打球态度 感觉是LBJ会做的事,讨论看看。 原文:http://ppt.cc/LXXl 原文长,翻译就尽量翻大意了 LeBron James, with Some Familiar Recruits, Trying to Bring Heat Culture to Cavs By Ethan Skolnick , NBA Senior Writer Jul 16, 2014 MIAMI — They were the Statler and Waldorf of the Miami Heat's Big Three era, deadeye shooters who spent pregame periods shooting the bull, invariably beside each other in visiting locker rooms. James Jones had an opinion on everything, and Mike Miller had a smile for everyone, and they seemed inseparable until the Heat sent Miller packing via the amnesty provision in the summer of 2013. MM和JJ是热火三王时代的Statler和Waldorf (注:美国知名的Muppet Shows里面的经典人物,两人焦不离孟无时无刻 都在斗嘴 XD) 这两个家伙在MM被裁之前,赛前总是一起热身,一起投篮,JJ总是不断的 发表各种意见,MM就在旁边对众人微笑。 They weren't always happy, not with Jones, and then Miller, put in the only-when-Dwyane-Wade-sits role, a position that required them to condition themselves through intense three-on-three competitions, just in case they'd get a chance. They were always ready, with their professionalism giving their coach, Erik Spoelstra, and also the Heat's premier star, LeBron James, confidence they could contribute when called upon. 这两人并不是总是开心的,尤其他们在热火只能在Wade不打的时间 上场,并且要随时保持热身状态。 但是他们总是准备好的,这种专业的态度就是Spo和Lebron能如此信任 他们的原因。 So it shouldn't be any surprise that James called upon them to join him in Cleveland, even if you weren't aware of James' anger at the amnesty decision, of James pushing for Jones to play more during the '13-14 season and '14 playoffs, or of James vacationing with Jones and Ray Allen and their families immediately after the NBA Finals. 所以Lebron希望他们能加入骑士完全不意外。 即使你不知道Lebron对MM被裁感到非常不满,也应该注意到在今年球季 和季後赛的时候Lebron要求Spo让JJ多上场。而他在这个暑假也和 JJ还有雷枪的家庭一起去渡假。 Each had to sacrifice significantly to join him. Jones left his home region, where he played his prep and collegiate ball and where he always spoke of completing his career, after six seasons. Miller missed an opportunity to remain in Memphis (a city his family enjoys) as James recruited him, and passed on a bigger payday in Denver, all to go to a franchise that he was happy to avoid in the '13 amnesty proceedings, so much so that his camp leaked word of impending back surgery. 要加入骑士,两个人都牺牲甚多。JJ牺牲了在离家乡近的地方打球, 一个他曾多次表示他愿意结束他生涯的地方。 MM放弃了家庭所喜爱的Memphis,放弃了Denver给他的大约,来到一个 他去年被裁时超级不想来的地方-他当时甚至要他的团队刻意泄露消息给 骑士说他的背部可能要开刀。。。(注:去年是有多不想来....^^) But this sort of sacrifice is why James wanted them. 但是这种牺牲的精神就是Lebron希望他们能加入他的原因。 He needs to bring some of Heat culture to Cleveland. 他需要带一些热火文化来到骑士队。 Sacrifice—of minutes, of shots, of cash—has been the core Heat tenet over the past several years, as evidenced again Tuesday when the co-captains, Dwyane Wade and Udonis Haslem, settled into smaller salary slots than was initially anticipated. Wade opted out of two years and nearly $42 million to accommodate reinforcements for The Big 3. After James left, he could have insisted upon more years, something closer to the four years and $60 million that had been assumed as a fair tradeoff in security for the slice in his annual salary. Instead, he took two years at just under $33 million. 牺牲的精神-不论是上场时间,投篮次数,或是$$$-这些是过去四年 热火不断强调的一点。而这个精神在Wade和UD签了低薪合约来帮助 球队补强後,更是显着。 Wade不拿6000万,只拿3000万出头。 Haslem, who has left more money on the table over his career than all but blockbuster movies earn on their opening weekends, sought a three-year commitment when he opted out of his remaining one-year, $4.6 million deal. Instead, after the Heat's post-James maneuvering, he took the only vehicle that was available: the two-year under-cap mid-level, which will earn him $5.6 million over two years. If he had opted in for the one year, and taken the minimum for the second one, he would have made roughly $500,000 more. UD在三王合体时就降了一次薪(低於市场价值), 这次他也少拿了至少50万镁。 By doing so, Wade and Haslem not only helped the Heat to remain competitive on the court over the next two years, but also gave them a chance to compete in free agency in the summer of '16, when Kevin Durant will be at the forefront of a potentially formidable class. This is the ultimate in selflessness in sports, when you can look beyond your own career and consider what is best for the organization you currently represent. 这种能把眼光放远,替自己代表的团队着想而非短视近利的只 为自己的生涯打算的球员是无私的代表。 This attitude is in contrast with what Cleveland's third-year guard, Dion Waiters, tweeted in Wednesday's wee hours, when asked by a follower if he would accept a bench role. His response was a "no," except with nine 'o's." Later, Waiters took down the tweet, lamenting that he can't just play on Twitter without everyone taking him seriously. Maybe it was just a joke. Or maybe it's indicative of why Luol Deng was reportedly so anxious to get out of Cleveland, after spending the final couple months of the '13-14 season there. Deng wasn't asked about that specifically during a Thursday morning interview with The Ticket in Miami, but he also made it clear that Miami's culture—known as somewhat similar to that of Chicago, the team of his first nine-plus seasons, was a major drawing card. It had to be, considering that Deng also took less money and years ($19.9 million over two seasons) than he could have received elsewhere. 这种态度相比於最近骑士的後卫服务生在推特上的发言就显得突出。 当有球迷在服务生的推特发问他是否愿意从板凳出发时,他明快的只说 了一个字「不」,但是重复了九次(不不不不不不不不不) 虽然他之後把这则推特拿掉并且说只是开玩笑,媒体不应该放大, 或许是吧?但是也或许是卤蛋为啥急着想要离开骑士的原因。 是的,卤蛋在礼拜四早上和迈阿密媒体访谈时并没有被问到离开原因, 但是却很确切地提到热火文化-类似於公牛,一个他呆了九年地方-是他 之所以决定和热火签约的主因之一。这点是肯定的,毕竟他拿了少於 市场价值的合约。 "If I told you the money's not part of it, I would be lying," Deng said during the radio interview. "It's part of the negotiation. But I really wanted to be somewhere where the team is going [in] the right direction, that the team wants to win, an organization that is used to winning and doesn't take losing. And I really didn't want to go somewhere where the next four years, it's always a conversation about the team being young and rebuilding and everything. I want to go somewhere where they're hungry and they want to get back where they've been the last four years." 卤蛋说「如果我跟你说钱没影响,那我就是在说谎,钱当然是洽谈的条件 之一,但是我也非常希望能加入一个在正确道路上前进的球队,一个想要 赢球的球队,一个习惯於赢球,而不愿意习於输球的团队。我不想未来四年 这个球队都还不断的在讨论有年轻肉体和满满潜力可以重建的地方。 我希望去一个对胜利感到渴望,一个想要重回冠军赛的地方。」 Over the last four years, the Cavaliers have gone 97-215, with their young players developing a lot of losing habits. Those were habits that Deng, known as one of the truest professionals in Chicago, couldn't do much to change during his brief time. Few will remember Deng was a Cavalier, though as of Thursday morning, his Twitter profile still listed him that way, as the hosts informed him. 过去四年骑士队战绩是97-215,而这一票年轻球员似乎也养成了不少输球 习惯。这些习惯是卤蛋-一个NBA里最敬业的球员之一-所无法改变的。 卤蛋在受访时被记者提醒他的推特帐号上还挂着自己是骑士球员的事实。 "As soon as I hang up, give me 10 minutes, and it will be fixed," Deng said. "Thank you guys for noticing that, letting me know. There's been a lot going on, so I haven't had time." 卤蛋「欧,给我十分钟,我一挂上电话立马就会把它改过来了。 谢谢你们提醒我,让我知道,太多事情要注意了,我还没时间去改咧。」 He was true to his word, as a cursory check of @LuolDeng9 now shows. 他的确马上换了。 James has been tasked with fixing something much bigger, along with David Blatt, the coach imported from a long career overseas. He needs to fix the Cavaliers' culture. Miller and Jones will go a long way toward that, by their mere presence, since they both go about their business the right way. Lebron James和新教头David Blatt要修复骑士队内的文化, 加上MM和JJ,将会有漫漫长路要走。 Recall what James said in late May, when asked about why the Heat missed Miller? 记得今年五月底Lebron受访时被问到为啥热火会怀念MM的存在? "People don't understand how instrumental Mike Miller was to our team... Yeah, he was just that stable guy. I mean, Mike, everything that he went through, both injuries and being in and out of the lineups, and not one day did he ever come to work with an 'I don't want to be here' attitude. Like never. And we all respected that. And for a guy like that who's done so much in his career, to come in with that mindset every day, we all saw that." 「人们不了解MM对我们整个球队的影响力。是的,他就是那个稳定力量。 我的意思是,MM在他生涯里经历了许多,伤痛或是不固定的上场时间等等, 但是我从来没有一天看到他来训练然後抱怨这抱怨那的,从没有。 而我们大家都很尊敬这种敬业态度。而这种敬业精神可以传染给整队。」 But James will also need to do a lot of the leading himself, even more than in Miami. He will need to evolve even more, to accommodate a new type of teammate than he typically had with the Heat. In that case, this part of that same interview applies even more: Lebron也需要知道他必须要比在热火时花更多气力在领导这挡子事上。 他必须要更佳进化,去适应一群不同於热火的新的队友。 "If you're a part of [the Heat's] culture, I believe you're here for a reason. Part of being a leader is making people also believe that sometimes they can do more than they actually can do. Giving them a sense of belief and confidence. And for me, I've always kind of done that. And I'm not downgrading what that individual can do. I'm just letting them know that they can do more than what they even thought they can do, and bring more to the game, and bring more to who they are as an individual than they thought they could." Lebron「如果你处於热火文化之中,我相信你在这边是有原因的。 作为一个领导者就是让人们相信他们可以做比他们实际上能做得更多。 给他们信念和信心。我总是能做到这样的角色。我并不是在贬低这些 人的能力。我只是让他们知道他们可以做到很多他们自己都不知道自己能做到 的事情,并且把这些态度带到球场上。」 He will need to bring that attitude to every practice, every game, every event. 他必须要用这种领导者的态度去面对接下来球季的每一个练习,每一场比赛, 每一次球队的事件。 He'll need to show the winning way to the large majority of the Cleveland roster. 他必须要教导这群小骑如何去赢球。 Because, at some point, there won't be any other Miami buddies to bring. 因为,热火的老兵们总有凋零的一天。 ============================== 心得: 其实Lebron愿意在骑士还没成型前就回来的确是一个挑战。 想想Lebron已经是个名副其实的老人了(虽然10年前就被当成老人 lol) 年轻人一定都想要证明自己, 一旦有什麽冲突也没有场外的友情做缓冲,就是直来直往了。 文中提到公牛和热火精神,目前的骑士感觉的确比较没有这种球队所散发 出来的那种从上至下的稳定感和求胜慾。 我认为从下一季的防守能到什麽程度可以约莫看出Lebron/Blatt对球队的影响力 到什麽程度,能冲进防守效率前十表示小将们相当受教,反之如果还是在 後段班徘徊,那表示还是各打各的,即使战绩可能季赛不会太差 但是到季後赛就走不了太远。 新球季应该会挺有趣的。:) --



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1F:推 phoenician:K大早 07/17 08:21
2F:推 nbahoop:小骑加油 老臣剩RA 快来吧! 07/17 08:26
3F:推 jinpenchi:这就是我希望LBJ能带来的效应,上场时间最多的还是小将 07/17 08:29
4F:→ jinpenchi:Waiters第六人也没差,上季那麽惨打第六人都没抱怨了 07/17 08:29
5F:→ jinpenchi:而且LBJ又带这种精神过来,加上赢球那他就乖乖打第六人 07/17 08:31
6F:→ jinpenchi:後场有Wiggins的优势就是也能帮助前场防守,Waiters完全 07/17 08:31
7F:→ jinpenchi:没这个功能,当一个抢分第六人+单防大锁比较适合他 07/17 08:32
8F:推 James781004:热火精神是吗 稍微有点感受到了:) 07/17 08:35
9F:推 YO8BO10:的确很多不好的文化都要该变,也好奇连败要怎麽调整球队 07/17 08:40
10F:→ YO8BO10:心态状况 07/17 08:40
11F:推 JackieShane:签来当高薪助教是还不错啦,但再打就一两年了,还是希 07/17 08:54
12F:→ JackieShane:望上场时间留给年轻人 07/17 08:55
13F:推 s66449:推 07/17 08:57
14F:→ kart:我觉得老将上场时间不是多寡太大问题,如果是球队氛围的事的 07/17 09:02
15F:→ kart:确多一两个至少跟自己理念一样的人一起开始会轻松些 07/17 09:02
16F:→ kart:我想这是MM和JJ来的隐性效应,而非场上表现而已 07/17 09:02
17F:→ kart:不过我也会担心LBJ这个新角色的扮演和进入会怎麽样,毫无疑问 07/17 09:03
18F:→ JackieShane:我就是这样的意思啊,只是不希望年轻人龙套时间都没了 07/17 09:04
19F:→ kart:我认为LBJ是个有领导气质的人,但是每个时期的领导方式不同 07/17 09:04
20F:→ kart:年轻时的Lebron因为大部份队友都比自己还老,他的方式比较像 07/17 09:04
21F:→ kart:是从朋友和鼓励开始,现在他自己是球队的老人,他要怎麽做令 07/17 09:05
22F:→ kart:人好奇,会一开始就摆老大哥姿态?还是也是buddy buddy开始? 07/17 09:06
23F:推 JackieShane:现在骑士等於有LBJ这另一个助教存在,最不希望的就是 07/17 09:10
24F:→ JackieShane:看到跟教练团冲突 07/17 09:10
25F:→ kart:LBJ没有跟教练团有过冲突吧,即使媒体很想要编这个故事 07/17 09:11
26F:推 jinpenchi:LBJ的智商要教好小将很容易吧,从朋友做起是他拿手的 07/17 09:11
27F:→ kart:相对於教练团,我还是比较担心和年轻小将的交流 07/17 09:11
28F:推 JackieShane:我觉得Blatt是有智慧的教练,执教生涯也有留下善於根 07/17 09:12
29F:→ JackieShane:据球队体质做调整的名声,但权力集中在教练这点应该 07/17 09:12
30F:→ JackieShane:不能动摇 07/17 09:12
31F:→ kart:恩恩,就怕他想要马上上手,摆不擅长老大样子反而得到反效果 07/17 09:13
32F:→ jinpenchi:LBJ一开始就是老大哥姿态,过往纪录好像没有..... 07/17 09:13
33F:→ jinpenchi:Blatt都要跟LBJ讨论用甚麽战术了,所以算互相罗 07/17 09:14
34F:→ jinpenchi:反正他们一定会互相背书,确信两者地位不可动摇 07/17 09:14
35F:推 JackieShane:至少印象中a大提过,在骑士後期他的朋党们对教练和管 07/17 09:14
36F:→ JackieShane:理阶层颐指气使是出名的 07/17 09:15
37F:→ jinpenchi:之後跟年轻小将用做朋友方式来教,比较像大哥教小弟 07/17 09:15
38F:→ JackieShane:这是我现在最担心的点 07/17 09:15
39F:→ jinpenchi:Jackie大那个一定会改吧,之後回骑士享受当时福利都被打 07/17 09:16
40F:→ jinpenchi:枪,他整个人也跟以前不一样罗.... 07/17 09:16
41F:→ jinpenchi:反正绝对不是屁孩了..... 07/17 09:16
42F:→ kart:我有看过那说法,但是觉得有点夸大,当时有特权是一定的,有 07/17 09:18
43F:→ kart:没有那麽不让当事人尊重(颐气指使)我觉得没有,否则早就被爆 07/17 09:19
44F:推 arenasis:就是有那麽大(点头),而且没被爆出来的唯一原因,是LeBron 07/17 09:28
45F:推 wombat121:当时为了留他忍气吞生才没爆出来啊 07/17 09:30
46F:→ arenasis:还在骑士,The Decision後当然就撕破脸了 07/17 09:32
47F:推 JackieShane:有爆出来吧,至少我在a大以外的来源有看过, 07/17 09:32
48F:→ arenasis:这问题的重点应该是 1.当时朋党的跋扈,Dan Gilbert有其 07/17 09:34
49F:→ arenasis:需负的责任,而我不确定他这次能否拿捏好对待SuperStar 07/17 09:35
50F:→ arenasis:的分寸,这跟LeBron个人的成熟度关系不那麽大 07/17 09:37
51F:推 mrchica:同JackieShane 07/17 09:39
52F:→ arenasis:2.LeBron的商业夥伴在MIA受到严格的管束,其实是促进他们 07/17 09:39
53F:→ arenasis:推动The Return的助力之一,先说这动机绝对没甚麽不好, 07/17 09:41
54F:→ arenasis:我只想提醒各位:商人不做无利可图之事,他帮你忙,绝对会 07/17 09:42
55F:→ arenasis:有相应的利基存在 07/17 09:42
56F:推 JackieShane:後来有看过一篇文章,Maverick Carter算是有点失势 07/17 09:45
57F:推 jinpenchi:所以多少还是有特权的....只是不会张扬出去?? 07/17 09:46
58F:→ JackieShane:然後就是近期的消息,说基本上James这次转队只谘询他 07/17 09:46
59F:→ JackieShane:老婆和Rich Paul 07/17 09:46
60F:推 cherngru:推a大 07/17 09:46
61F:推 jinpenchi:A大的#1FFV55D8可以看看,热火和骑士时期的差别 07/17 09:48
62F:→ jinpenchi:不过LBJ的身体也不能那样操了,先回来带小将除了赚名声 07/17 09:48
63F:→ jinpenchi:延长篮球生涯也是很重要的一点。 07/17 09:49
64F:→ arenasis:如果只谘询妻子,家人跟Paul,很OK,但大家也看到报导,那个 07/17 09:53
65F:推 mainjo74:好文 07/17 09:53
66F:推 jinpenchi:不过那时候觉得KI会成为领袖的我完全错了 推文就随便看 07/17 09:53
67F:→ arenasis:会在休息室外面批评教练的Maverick Carter,也协助安排 07/17 09:53
68F:→ arenasis:了老板与LeBron的那次关键会面, so我们不可能完全避免 07/17 09:54
69F:→ arenasis:商业公关的协助,但相对LeBron也不可能事必躬亲去管束 07/17 09:55
70F:→ arenasis:那些占人车位,滥索签名的特权份子(否则他就不用打球了) 07/17 09:56
71F:→ arenasis:球团的心态就是LeBron时代II的关键 07/17 09:58
72F:推 JackieShane:其实回头看a大那篇文,现在觉得James身边的人积极运 07/17 10:02
73F:→ JackieShane:作他回骑士的理由非常充分了 07/17 10:02
74F:推 JackieShane:不过现在重点在於未来了,希望这次球团有上次的教训会 07/17 10:05
75F:→ JackieShane:做得好一点 07/17 10:05
76F:推 nctucch17170:推元PO 球队文化很重要! 07/17 10:14
77F:推 skunnyk:所以因为LBJ牌子大,这些鸟事都没有见诸太多主流媒体吗?感 07/17 11:10
78F:→ skunnyk:觉很好给媒体发挥啊~另一个可能就是他不是特例...那就变 07/17 11:11
79F:→ skunnyk:可以拍一部「你所不知的NBA了」XD 07/17 11:11
80F:推 johntw:Maverick Carter一直都和LBJ很亲近啊,我记得热火在12-13总 07/17 11:42
81F:→ dennis3556:要再进化了 07/17 11:42
82F:→ johntw:冠军赛前几场LBJ没发挥好时,比赛结束後就有记者看到 07/17 11:43
83F:→ johntw:Maverick Carter在跟LBJ讨论打法的问题,说他乱了节奏 07/17 11:43
84F:推 joulin:这篇是好文 只是讨论到後来怎麽变成重点在於干政了XDXDD 07/17 12:03
85F:→ joulin:现在说甚麽感觉都太早 现在担心似乎也都徒劳无功 07/17 12:04
86F:→ joulin:因为我们根本使不上力阿XD 再者 也因为我们根本不知道 07/17 12:05
87F:→ joulin:LBJ到底变得怎麽样了 楼上各位板友担心的事情会不会发生 07/17 12:05
88F:→ joulin:就看LBJ的心态跟智慧了 四年前 他就是个屁孩 他没有智 07/17 12:05
89F:→ joulin:慧 不聪明 才会就算不是他自己的主意 他也被人家牵着鼻子 07/17 12:06
90F:→ joulin:办了一个该死又无脑的公开打脸记者会 07/17 12:06
91F:→ joulin:可以看得出来 当时的他 就是没有智慧 也不够成熟 07/17 12:06
92F:→ joulin:场下如果会有甚麽事情(纵容自己团队嚣张) 那也是可以想像的 07/17 12:07
93F:→ joulin:只是 现在还会不会这样? 还没到 没有人会知道答案 07/17 12:07
94F:→ joulin:现在是否变聪明有智慧了?恩 至少从这次回来骑士 整个过程 07/17 12:08
95F:→ joulin:的低调 还有宣布的方式 他确实是已经改变了 07/17 12:08
96F:→ joulin:再加上那篇自述 如果大家愿意相信那真的是他的真心话 07/17 12:08
97F:→ joulin:那他经过这四年的成长还有处理事情变得更有智慧了 就不需要 07/17 12:08
98F:→ joulin:怀疑了 所以 大家或许可以先别担心 07/17 12:09
99F:→ joulin:但假若 这些其实都是表面 都是操作 都是假的 他还是 07/17 12:09
100F:→ joulin:一个不成熟的中二屁孩 依旧要做一些无脑的事情 那遗臭万 07/17 12:09
101F:→ joulin:年 也就是他未来会有的唯一结果 那也是他自己要承担的 07/17 12:10
102F:推 behero:推a大跟S大 07/17 12:44
103F:→ behero:是J大 XDDDD 07/17 12:44
104F:推 skunnyk:j大讲的真极端 >< 我认为不管怎样他都不至於遗臭万年,可能 07/17 13:00
105F:→ skunnyk:另外他智慧不够所以在名望最高的时候搞出Decision,不过也 07/17 13:02
106F:→ skunnyk:不是蠢蛋,甚至相反聪明过头反而是比较要担心的 07/17 13:03
107F:推 nctucch17170:同楼上KOBE场外事情这麽多 他遗臭万年了吗? 07/17 13:03
108F:→ nctucch17170:他打球自私 对老婆不忠 还不是活的好好的 07/17 13:04
109F:→ nctucch17170:还有 要说干政 KOBE干政的事情更多 欧肥都被他斗走 07/17 13:05
110F:→ nctucch17170:不懂J大说得不成熟中岸辟还无脑事情是甚麽 07/17 13:06
111F:→ nctucch17170:既然回来骑士 多少支持自家球星不是理所当然的吗? 07/17 13:07
112F:→ nctucch17170:还有 四年前我也不认为LBJ就是个屁孩 也太武断了吧! 07/17 13:08
113F:→ nctucch17170:媒体说甚麽 就全盘接受 这不就变成人云亦云了吗? 07/17 13:08
114F:→ nctucch17170:说到特权 哪一对的球星没有特权?? 专注在这种事上真 07/17 13:10
115F:→ nctucch17170:觉得很鸟 07/17 13:10
116F:→ arenasis:我是不介意看你们两个放对啦,反正也是闲着... 07/17 13:17
117F:→ arenasis:但这篇推文的主轴就是围绕着LeBron他周遭的人,与球队文 07/17 13:18
118F:→ arenasis:化还有营运的影响,把事情拉回到LeBron个性怎样怎样,他4 07/17 13:19
119F:→ arenasis:年前想啥今年想啥的人,不就你们两位吗~ 07/17 13:20
120F:推 okajo:其实我很认同A大那篇文章的内容 我相信即便是当年在骑士 07/17 13:26
121F:→ okajo:LBJ本人也很克制 但他身边的亲友就不是了 07/17 13:27
122F:推 tliu223:LBJ很聪明,但就是因为聪明所以有时才会考虑太多 07/17 13:29
123F:→ tliu223:有时候想要兼顾各方利益的结果就是会两厢不讨好… 07/17 13:30
124F:→ okajo:另外让球星凌驾於球员文化的管理方式 真的很不利夺冠 07/17 13:32
125F:→ okajo:也许不必像热火那麽夸张 但不能像以前那麽放纵是肯定的 LBJ 07/17 13:33
126F:→ okajo:还是需要有人去督促他(热火这工作主要是Wade和湿婆在做) 07/17 13:34
127F:→ okajo:T大~所以对LBJ的亲友团做适度的控管 对LBJ本身不见得是坏事 07/17 13:35
128F:→ okajo:黑脸球团当 反而让LBJ比较好专注在球场上 07/17 13:37
129F:推 JackieShane:如果单纯是球员亲友要免费票等等之类好处,都还算是贪 07/17 13:50
130F:→ JackieShane:小便宜,但更严重的是楼上所说让一个人凌驾全队(包含 07/17 13:50
131F:→ JackieShane:老板、球团、教练、队友...)的情形不能再发生 07/17 13:50
132F:推 mrchica:其实有点好奇 骑士今年在FA市场的方针有没有和Blatt讨论过 07/17 13:53
133F:推 JackieShane:Blatt这两天接受访问时有说,他从被雇用开始就有和 07/17 13:55
134F:→ JackieShane:Grif(他称Giffin的方式)讨论FA、选秀和workout 07/17 13:56
135F:→ mrchica:了解 07/17 13:56
136F:推 joulin:哈哈XD 是我说得太过偏激了吗XD 好啦 我承认 我只是讲出 07/17 14:21
137F:→ joulin:别人曾经说过LBJ怎麽样的那些形容词而已 其实我没有那样认 07/17 14:21
138F:→ joulin:为 我只是为了表达中立 不要让我挺LBJ的立场太明显 哈哈 07/17 14:22
139F:→ joulin:还有 版主大人QQ 我没有想要拉回LBJ的个性的意思喔 07/17 14:22
140F:→ joulin:只是 LBJ的团队怎麽样 其实LBJ没办法置身事外 他也有责任 07/17 14:22
141F:→ arenasis:well...有些事我只能说不用这麽多余思考啦XD 07/17 14:26
142F:→ arenasis:看板上常发言的人,其言论的脉络都是一贯的,看的人自己会 07/17 14:28
143F:→ arenasis:衡量 07/17 14:28
144F:推 joulin:也是 有双重人格的人毕竟还是少数 ... 好吧 我太多余了 07/17 14:30
145F:→ joulin:我大概讲得再坏可能也无法逃过明眼人认为我就是挺LBJ的立场 07/17 14:30
146F:→ joulin:反而骗到了n大 哈哈哈哈 07/17 14:31
147F:推 NuCat:LBJ打球的实力远大於他的领导能力 07/17 16:44
148F:→ NuCat:现阶段与其展现老大哥的姿态去训诫小老弟 不如身体力行 07/17 16:46
149F:推 okajo:像楼上这位就是很一贯的到处乱版这样XDDDDD 07/17 17:48
150F:推 d88647511:他的领导大概是出张嘴叫队友卡位、叫队友防守吧 07/17 20:30
151F:推 joulin:最好是LBJ都只出一张嘴拉 07/17 21:22
152F:→ arenasis:我觉得楼上搞错楼楼上的指涉对象了... 07/17 21:29
153F:推 cherngru:有双重人格不是hssz 吗?XDDD 07/17 21:38
154F:推 hump:话说乙太公还没来,还好还好... 07/17 21:41
155F:→ shangyen:zsh来大概天下大乱.... 07/17 22:00
156F:推 r44621:还有ㄌㄔㄉㄉ... 07/18 00:41
157F:推 skunnyk:扭猫又出现了...= = LBJ的领导魅力在球场上实在很明显,不 07/18 07:40
158F:→ skunnyk:知道跑出来酸这一点的是不是找错地方酸了?加油!lol 07/18 07:41
159F:推 NuCat:什麽叫我又出现了 我一直是铁杆骑士迷好吗? 07/18 11:13







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