作者Llingjing (冷剑尘)
看板Catholic
标题[分享] 克修者语录
时间Mon May 19 00:51:37 2014
原书标题:Three-Hundred Sayings of the Ascetics of the Orthodox Church
我在教会看过中文书名,但有点忘记是翻克修者还是隐修者了,应该是前者。
英文版全文:
http://orthodox.cn/patristics/300sayings_en.htm
闲暇时间会读手机版,有些让我有点感触,自己简单的翻译,如果有错请指正。
×St. Pimen the Great said: Depart from every man who loves to quarrel.
(Ancient Paterikon, 11.59)
圣皮蒙说:远离喜爱争执的人。
×If you cannot close the mouth of one who reviles his brother, at least avoid
conversation with him.
(St. Isaac the Syrian, Homily 89)
如果你无法让喜爱辱駡弟兄的静下来,那至少别和他说话。
心得:有时我自己也成了那爱争执、让别人应当远离的人。
×It is joyful to feel that we do not and cannot have any enemies among men,
but only unhappy brethren, who are deserving of pity and help, even when,
through misunderstanding, they become our enemies and fight against us. Woe!
They do not understand that the enemy is found within ourselves, and that
first of all one must cast him out of oneself, and then also help others to
do the same. We have only one enemy: the devil and his evil spirits. But man,
no matter how far he has fallen, never loses certain sparks of light and
goodness which may be blown into a bright flame. But for us there is no
reason to fight against people, even when they consistently send against all
kind of blows and rebukes ... To fight against people is to take a false
position of our enemies. Even if we succeed, we gain nothing from this fight,
but rather become estranged from our own success.
(Martyr Roman Medved, Letter to His Daughter from the Gulag, 1932).
可喜的是在人群中,我们没有任何敌人,只有痛苦的弟兄。他们需要怜悯和帮助,但有时
透过误解,他们成了与我们冲突的敌人。多麽可悲,他们不了解自己才是敌人,首先当赶
走自己心中的敌人、接着协助他人这样做。唯有撒殚是我们的敌人。而人,不论堕落的多
深,绝对不会失去燃起火焰的良知光芒。我们没有理由攻击他人,即便他们不断地辱駡打
击……反击他人便做了和我们敌人同样的事。即便成功了,那也得不到什麽,甚至离我们
的成功更加遥远。
心得:一位殉道者在古拉格(劳改营)对女儿说的话。其实我看完马上想到的是:这样要
怎麽办?所谓的不要fight against是指有形无形的反击都不要吗?
有位老师跟我说:基督徒当是和平主义者。那除了防御闪躲点高之外,还能做什麽?
×Love sinners, but hate their deeds, and do not disdain sinners for their
failings, so that you yourself do not fall into the temptation in which they
abide... Do not be angry at anyone and do not hate anyone, neither for their
faith, nor for their shameful deeds... Do not foster hatred for the sinner,
for we are all guilty... Hate his sins, and pray for him, so that you may be
made like unto Christ, who had no dislike for sinners, but prayed for them.
(St. Isaac the Syrian, Homily 57,90)
当爱罪人,但厌恶罪行,且不要蔑视他们的失败,如此一来你便不会跟着陷入诱惑之中
……别对他人的小信或丑事动怒或厌憎……别因罪人而有了仇恨,因我们都是罪人……
厌其罪行,为他祈祷,这样你将与基督更相似而非像个罪人,而是为他们祈祷。
心得:好想入手一本圣依撒格的讲道集(重点错)
这段好像很常听到!但也很难做到……要祈祷,要反省,就像在感恩祭中我们的认罪。
其实东正教的寝前祈祷有每日认罪经文啦可是我没有每天念OTZ
还在培养每天祈祷的习惯,希望早日养成。
最後,wp有它的应用:
http://goo.gl/QsuFLc
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1F:推 johanna:今早弥撒中天主圣神给我的启示:「我已经赦免了你几百亿, 05/19 09:12
2F:→ johanna:区区几万元你也要向人追讨吗?」吓得我赶紧去办告解.... 05/19 09:12
我是对着圣像痛哭流涕……其实我连几百块都念念不忘!!
3F:推 johanna:有点好奇,L大会不会想在天主教会内领圣体、办告解? 05/19 10:56
4F:→ johanna:依法典844条「如果自动请求,亦有相称的准备」是可以领的 05/19 10:57
5F:→ johanna:《天主教法典》844条1项:天主教圣职人只能对天主教信徒, 05/19 11:02
6F:→ johanna: 合法地施行圣事;同样天主教信徒,只能由天主教圣职人 05/19 11:02
7F:→ johanna: 合法地领受圣事,但本条的2、3、4项,和861条2项的 05/19 11:02
8F:→ johanna: 规定不在此限。 05/19 11:02
9F:→ johanna: 3项:尚未完全和天主教会共融的东方教会人士,如果自动 05/19 11:02
10F:→ johanna: 请求,且亦有相称的准备,天主教圣职人可合法地为之 05/19 11:02
11F:→ johanna: 施行忏悔、圣体、和病人傅油圣事。 05/19 11:02
领圣体有问过,正教会神父说不行|||告解这方面还没问,领洗前也会趁大家在告解时和神
父说说话就是了。唔唔唔其实我很想办告解的说,有好多事想要大出清。
12F:→ johanna:希望是可以啦,这样就多几百个据点了~ 05/19 11:37
13F:→ johanna:话说李亮神父常参加我们的活动,下次观察看看他有没有领XD 05/19 11:41
会不会不同神父间的看法也不同呢?我现在还是会参加主日弥撒,只是不能领圣体而已。
14F:→ johanna:L大不是一个月前才刚洗乾净吗?应该没多少要出清的吧 :P 05/19 12:28
有话想说,虽然天主应该听很多次了。
15F:→ johanna: :) 圣事真的很有帮助 听赦罪经时 常常是边听边掉泪... 05/19 13:52
谢谢分享~知道汇率後对耶稣的比喻体会就深刻多了。这网站其他文章也好讃。
17F:推 traystien:是哪间正教会说不行啊 XD 05/21 16:42
战斗民族说的,我是爬过文也问了神父。
话说,不知道哪天上台北去李亮神父那边他会不会让我领圣体O__O"
※ 编辑: Llingjing (60.244.17.33), 05/21/2014 18:32:23
18F:推 traystien:好吧 有机会的话下次去问问 XD 05/22 00:49
19F:推 traystien:最近有规画类似行程吗 XD 05/22 00:50