Pope, Restating 2000 Document, Cites 'Defects' of Other Faiths http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/11/world/europe/11pope.html?_r=1&oref=slogin … The document released Tuesday focused largely on the Vatican definition of what constitutes a church, which it defined as being traceable through its bishops to Christ's original apostles. Thus, it said, the world's Orthodox Christians make up a church because of shared history, if "separated" from the "proper" Catholic tradition, while Protestants split from Catholicism during the Reformation are considered only "Christian communities." The document repeated church teaching that the Roman Catholic Church alone is the mediator of salvation, though other beliefs can be its "instrument." "These separated churches and communities, though we believe they suffer from defects, are deprived neither of significance nor importance in the mystery of salvation," the document read. "In fact the Spirit of Christ has not refrained from using them as instruments of salvation, whose value derives from that fullness of grace and of truth which has been entrusted to the Catholic Church." … 底下跟前面没关 最近天主教里是有在讨论梵二 大概是前几年的时候 出了一本讲梵二开会的情形的书 说 在全球的主教要开梵二会议的时候 其实梵蒂冈的人 已经草拟了一些宪章 可能比较保守 遭到全球主教们的否决 後来才有拉内神父 这些人草拟 现在我们看到的梵二的文件 後来就通过了 一般是说这是天主教现代化的重要会议 前一阵子 梵蒂冈讲那本书说的有些不是事实 还进一步的说 梵二前後的天主教是没有变的 天主教是持续的 然後 一个耶稣会士 在演讲的时候 就反驳说 天主教怎麽可能是没有变的 梵二前的弥撒 都是拉丁文 现在的弥撒 跟那时完全不一样 一个明眼人都看的出来 教会有变 怎麽可能没有变 没想到 我们教宗就说要恢复拉丁弥撒了 现在 又要说别的基督教是有点缺陷的 "These separated churches and communities, though we believe they suffer from defects, are deprived neither of significance nor importance in the mystery of salvation," the document read. 其实 基要主义是比较有市场的 说别人是不好的 不对的 自己是最好的 最棒的 是比较受欢迎的 如果说天主教很好 别的宗教也不错 好像比较没有吸引力 前一阵子的热门话题 就是 拉丁美洲的天主教徒 从90% 降到66% 有些人就说是因为梵二後 太自由了 不一定要信天主教 所以天主教徒就不进教堂了 --

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