作者BambooIL (竹子)
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标题[报导] Cardinals lose draft picks, fined for
时间Wed Feb 1 00:14:47 2017
Cardinals lose draft picks, fined for hacking scandal
http://www.vivaelbirdos.com/2017/1/30/14442050/cardinals-hacking-scandal-penalties-fine-draft-picks
https://goo.gl/6RmTsF
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大年初四没什麽事情做不然来略翻一下...
如果我选错文章翻还请指正
For months, the results of the Commissioner’s investigation into the
Cardinals’ hacking scandal were coming soon. Since initial reports of the
Cardinals’ hacking into the Houston Astros database came out more than a
year and a half ago, the principal actor, former Cardinals employee and
Scouting Director Chris Correa, has been sentenced to multiple years in
prison. The punishment for the Cardinals’ organization has now been set as
well:
长达几个月的调查结束後,结果出来了,故事是一年半前爆发的骇客事件,前球探长
Chris Correa要去坐快四年的牢,而对红雀球团的惩罚则是丢掉今年的前两轮选秀签
(分别是#56跟#75),并且要在30天内付出两百万美元的罚金。而签跟罚金则归太空人
队所有。
The Cardinals will lose the first two picks in this year’s draft (#56 and
#75), and they will be fined $2 million. Both the picks and the fine will
head to Houston, per Derrick Goold.
The Cardinals have already forfeited their first round pick due to signing
Dexter Fowler. The 56th pick in the draft was the Cardinals second round
pick, and the 75th pick was the Cardinals supplemental pick for being in a
smaller market. According to Baseball America, the 56th pick has a slot value
of $1,122,400 and the 75th pick has a slot value of $730,800.
既然今年已经因为签下Dexter Fowler而失去了首轮签,这次被罚的是56顺位的次轮签
跟75顺位的小市场补偿签(每次总版提红鸟都会被提出来酸一阵的东西),两个顺位的
Slot分别是$1,122,400跟$730,800。
Before the penalties were announced, the Cardinals already had the
second-lowest amount of pool money to spend on the draft at just under $4
million. These penalties will reduce the Cardinals’ pool money to
$2,072,300. That is the amount the Cardinals can spend on the first ten
rounds plus any bonuses on later rounds above $100,000.
在罚则宣布之前,红雀原本的pool money已经是所有球队里面第二少的了(不到4M),
这波惩罚下来会造成前10轮(剩下8只签)可以花的钱直接砍半到2M左右。
(现在第二少的变成印地安人,大约3.5M)
Last season, the Cardinals’ bonus pool was in excess of $9 million. The team
is also currently above the penalty amount for international spending so
beginning on July 2 of next season, they will not be allowed to sign any
international amateur for more than $300,000.
这个数字到底怎麽看?去年红雀的pool是超过9M的。而也不要忘记因为上一季签
国际球员签爆了,所以在下个球季末开始的海外球员签约金全部不能超过30万美金。
(也顺便提一下,2M的slot差不多就等於30顺位,今年是小熊的这一只签的slot)
The $2 million fine is an expected punishment, while many speculated that the
Cardinals could lose draft picks as part of a punishment. While losing draft
picks is a fairly harsh punishment, it is an equitable one, as the team
wronged in this case will receive the picks as well as the important bonus
pool money that goes along with them.
2M的罚金其实是可预期的,而之前也有许多风声跟报导显示红雀可能会丢掉选秀签,当然
对球队来说丢掉前段选秀权还是个满重的罚则,不只是签本身,pool money也随之而去。
(从一年前开始就有文章指出红雀很可能会被拔选秀权,红雀对此做出的对应是在今年的
国际签约中先大撒特撒一波避免农场空虚,对於考虑Fowler的签约与否也有影响。)
Buster Olney recently reported that many executives around the game felt the
Cardinals must be dealt a severe blow given the hacking and spying that
occurred, which included Chris Correa repeatedly accessing the Astros’
computers to gain competitive information that could have proved very useful
to the Cardinals, especially as it related to the draft.
不少高层(?)觉得红雀应该在这次事件中付出更惨痛的代价,为的不外乎Correa偷了
太空人的重要资讯,尤其这些重要且有用的资讯是跟选秀有关的。
(结果你____选了个Marco Gonzales,搞屁啊)
Correa, in a ruling that pales in comparison to the punishment leveled by the
state, has been placed on the permanently ineligible list, so he can’t work
in baseball. Correa’s jail sentence should serve as deterrent enough for
anyone contemplating such espionage in the future. His prison sentence likely
brings to light the serious nature of hacking an opponent.
当然这次事件中最惨的还是Correa本人,首先终生不得从事棒球相关活动,再者还得
去蹲快四年的苦牢,这个判例也会影响到未来骇进竞争对手资料库的相关案例。
I wrote back in July, that those calling for particularly harsh penalties
were doing so not out of competitive fairness, but out of a desire to see the
Cardinals organization, and their relatively pristine reputation, take a
massive hit. This punishment should appease those looking for a fair
punishment for the Cardinals’ actions as well as those who just want to see
the Cardinals knocked down a peg.
这次的惩罚应该可以安抚不少想要看红雀实力被削弱的人。
(嗯...?)
The Cardinals don’t lose a first round choice, but the choices they do lose
probably have some value close to one first round pick at the back of the
first round where the Cardinals have typically selected. The $2 million to
the Astros is roughly the amount the team believed its stolen property was
worth.
虽然没有因此被拔掉首轮签,但是两只签的pool加起来其实也差不多是一只首轮签了
(不过价值还是比不上一只首轮),而2M的罚金则作为补偿太空人在事件中所损失的资产。
顺便提一下,在当前的CBA中2M是单一罚金的上限,所以是罚到上限不能再高了。
In the short term, this will really hurt the Cardinals draft in 2017. They won
’t pick until the third round just a year after having three first round
picks, and will have little to no room to maneuver signing bonuses around to
take overslot players. It really isn’t a penalty that will be easy to feel,
however.
短期而言,2017年的选秀受到重击无庸置疑,第一只签要等到第三轮,而後面轮次也没有
太多钱可以花,这对红雀球团来说不是什麽好受的经验。
(这对现任球探长Randy Flores来说也是个考验,第三轮的#94到底要怎麽选,是像以往
红雀对三轮签的态度般选些安全牌,抑或是尝试抓下当下具有最高天花板的球员)
Long term, these picks weren’t likely to make an impact anytime soon, and
the Cardinals should be able to paper over the lost draft picks over time.
Correa hasn’t been with the team in quite some time, and no other employees
have been implicated so the loss in talent to the front office is minimal.
This has clearly been an embarrassing situation for the Cardinals, and these
penalties should put an end to the story so that all parties can move forward.
长期来看,是暂时不会影响到大联盟层级,过几年会比较冲淡这些影响没错,但是实质上
还是满痛的。在球探系统方面,Correa已经一段时间没有帮球队工作了,这次是属於他的
个人行为,所以没有其他人受到影响。
以下个人心得
首先我觉得J-Mo发表的声明...并不是特别好,尤其Correa是他决定要雇用的人,对於选
择了这样一个糟糕而且做出这种对球队有负面影响的决策的人,他该负些责任但是他没有
对此说些什麽。
另外,2M给太空人无所谓,但是实在不能理解两只签都给太空人的意义,Luhnow应该比
现在在红雀球探系统里面的人聪明个三倍吧,这两只签我还满相信又会变成太空人未来
倚重的战力,实在是不太希望这样,我觉得签直接没收比较合理一点。
至於这罚则到底重不重?现在风向很乱。2M是罚则上限所以没什麽好讨论的,选秀签跟
Pool的价值加起来顶多就10M多一些,但是他还是选秀签,今年想必是选不到什麽高天花板
的球员了,最高最高就到Paul DeJong之流吧?明年农场系统还是有机会冲上Top 5,可是
今年就别期待除了海外的签约之外有什麽好货。
关於选秀签的事情,即使今年被拿走的真的是前两轮的签,最後签了Fowler那结果也是
一样的,红雀都是少掉前三只签,不会因为这件事情有所改变,但如果提前知道罚则细项
的话...我觉得红雀说不定会更积极的去追Justin Turner、Edwin Encarnacion等球员。
从大联盟的角度来看,考虑点是:
1.给予得利方(红雀队、Correa)惩罚
2.给予受害方(太空人队)补偿
3.如何避免任何类似情况发生
对於1.跟2.的部分上面都已经提完了,由於是第一次类似案件需要警惕作用所以该重罚、
但因为调查显示Correa是单独犯案没有与他人共享资讯所以该轻判,等等的论点在各家
文章中都提过了,在此不赘述。至於3.的部分,如果风险是四年的牢狱之灾外加一辈子
不能接触棒球相关事务,恐怕已经足以警惕每个想要仿效的人了。
然後,没有然後了,第一次在雀版翻文章,有任何问题请不吝指正。
延伸阅读:
觉得罚不够重组:
Ken Rosenthal
http://www.foxsports.com/mlb/story/cardinals-deserved-far-worse-punishment-from-mlb-after-hacking-astros-013017
Jeff Sullivan
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/the-cardinals-got-off-light-for-the-astros-hack/
觉得罚很重组:所有红雀相关的网站
顺便提一下太空人的法顾Giles Kibbe好像觉得差不多
https://twitter.com/BenReiter/status/826161196491501572
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