作者RMice (RM||ice||GM)
标题Re: [WG] 关於胖子的配点
时间Fri Aug 22 22:30:29 2008
这是我回tylertsai的信
我觉得对抵抗型的人可能会有些帮助
所以PO出来 给大家讨论讨论...
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嗯......
我不是以主技能为分段标准耶
我一开始也是这样想
可是照着这样的走法
到後来会发现
有时候有些缺点补不回来
例如说 中期与其他属性相比
相对变弱 赚钱困难
所以我後来重新规划 但是为时已晚
所以restart了
不过以下还是会照你要的方法规划
***以上为废屁XD***
先把我的结论告诉你XD (依你的点法去算的)
LV50
你目前 建议
Tireless 34 35 <= 出Gorilla Press Slam (Groggy)
和Alley Woop (Bent down)
Toughness 15 27 <= 出Military Press (Groggy)
Thick Skin 34 34 <= 暂时就先不动 冲招点他非常耗点数
而且点了没什麽效益 也冲不出招
Willpower 5 25 <= 出Alley Woop (Bent down)
Pacification 20 20 <= 点数不够了...
Endurance 45 45 <= 点数不够了...而且其实不必点了...
LV60
Tireless 35 <= 这就看你要冲哪些招决定
Toughness 39~44 <= 出Groin Knee Drop (Grounded 最後期招)
Thick Skin 34~39 <= 同上
Willpower 35 <= 出Super Snap Powerbomb (Bent down最後期招)
并设定为招牌技
Pacification 35 <= 这样AD = 7 应该对很多人来说都乐胜
Endurance 45 <= 基本上冲招的话40就够了
而且再点高好像也没差多少......
就算所有技能取最低点数分配
res属性升级到LV60也无法冲出全部後期招
所以要做取舍
以Groggy Grounded Bent down 为主
你现在应该是步入中期
中期res最大的致命伤
就是没有强力中期招
或者根本就没什麽中期招
以最严重的体位Grounded来说
从初期到最後就只有五招
walk on back walk on belly 这初期必学没话讲
Big Splash Pin 是他的中期招
可是这招是pin技
而且其实需求也不低
这是对res来说打击最大的部份
pin也是需要消耗sta的
可是除非你同时也把speed 点高
Lightness点高
不然其实还蛮伤的
所以就必须找其他属性的招来补中期的不足
但是以你的点法来看应该是有困难
那就只剩下一种方法----直冲後期招 (这跟我比较合)
但是res直冲後期招 有很大的困难在於
res的後期招 需求点数分散
例如:
Groin Knee Drop
Minimum Damage: 13
Maximum Damage: 52
Attack Bonus: 23
Bleeding %: 0
Required Position: Grounded
Obtained Position: Grounded
Suffered Position: Groggy
1st Ability: Toughness
2nd Ability: Thick Skin
total Ability: 78
这是Grounded最後期招 需求是Toughness和Thick Skin
Gorilla Press Slam
Minimum Damage: 9
Maximum Damage: 66
Attack Bonus: 20
Bleeding %: 0
Required Position: Groggy
Obtained Position: Grounded
Suffered Position: Groggy
1st Ability: Tireless
2nd Ability: Endurance
total Ability: 80
这是Groggy 最後期招 需求是Tireless和Endurance
所需要的技能都不同
依我现在比较高等级的经验 还有以前练招的心得
配合你现在的配点
我比较建议你先出的招应该是下面几个
LV 50 前的规划
[Groggy]
Military Press
Minimum Damage: 15
Maximum Damage: 63
Attack Bonus: 16
Bleeding %: 0
Required Position: Groggy
Obtained Position: Grounded
Suffered Position: Bent down
1st Ability: Toughness
2nd Ability: Endurance
total Ability: 72
建议放这招在招牌技下 (个人看法 比较喜欢拼高伤害的还是会放Gorilla Press Slam)
虽然你只要再一点Tireless就可以学到Gorilla Press Slam
可是Gorilla Press Slam的最低伤害太低 9 ~ 66
相较之下Military Press的伤害就比较稳定
放大10倍 150 ~ 630 90 ~ 660
放大20倍 300 ~ 1260 180 ~ 1320
最低伤害高很多 最高伤害差不了多少
LEGENDARY 和 MORTAL 的差别...
所以建议Gorilla Press Slam 学起来放就好
等Military Press出来再换招牌技
这时双方跑步也会有一招好招可以学
[Both are Running]
Running Headbutt
Minimum Damage: 5
Maximum Damage: 40
Attack Bonus: 16
Bleeding %: 0
Required Position: Both wrestler are running
Obtained Position: Grounded
Suffered Position: Standing
1st Ability: Toughness
2nd Ability: Thick Skin
total Ability: 59
这招可以考虑比上面那招先出 (这体位招式较少)
[Bent Down]
Alley Woop
Minimum Damage: 11
Maximum Damage: 42
Attack Bonus: 11
Bleeding %: 15
Required Position: Bent down
Obtained Position: Grounded
Suffered Position: Grounded
1st Ability: Tireless
2nd Ability: Force of Will
total Ability: 60
这招最好快学起来
出血高 伤害也不低
res型少见的好用中期招
到这里是LV50配点 还剩下15点数
以下为LV60
[Grounded]
Groin Knee Drop
Minimum Damage: 13
Maximum Damage: 52
Attack Bonus: 23
Bleeding %: 0
Required Position: Grounded
Obtained Position: Grounded
Suffered Position: Groggy
1st Ability: Toughness
2nd Ability: Thick Skin
total Ability: 78
Toughness Thick Skin 都39 (或者减伤高一点)
Thick Skin = 39
ps 除了为了冲下面这招 也是为了其他招需要而点
会多出一招Groggy 和 Bent down(这无关Thick Skin)
[Groggy]
Full Nelson Bomb
Minimum Damage: 12
Maximum Damage: 60
Attack Bonus: 20
Bleeding %: 0
Required Position: Groggy
Obtained Position: Grounded
Suffered Position: Groggy
1st Ability: Tireless
2nd Ability: Thick Skin
total Ability: 74
[Bent down]
Sit Down Powerbomb
Minimum Damage: 18
Maximum Damage: 50
Attack Bonus: 21
Bleeding %: 0
Required Position: Bent down
Obtained Position: Grounded
Suffered Position: Groggy
1st Ability: Tireless
2nd Ability: Toughness
total Ability: 71
这时候Running Op.
也会顺便出
[Running opponent]
Gutbuster
Minimum Damage: 15
Maximum Damage: 45
Attack Bonus: 14
Bleeding %: 0
Required Position: Running opponent
Obtained Position: Grounded
Suffered Position: Grounded
1st Ability: Tireless
2nd Ability: Toughness
total Ability: 68
再来是Bent Down (当然也可以这招先 但是我觉得Grounded较常用 影响较大 应该先出)
[Bent down]
Super Snap Powerbomb
Minimum Damage: 9
Maximum Damage: 66
Attack Bonus: 20
Bleeding %: 0
Required Position: Bent down
Obtained Position: Grounded
Suffered Position: Bent down
1st Ability: Thick Skin
2nd Ability: Force of Will
total Ability: 74
并且设定为招牌技
还会出
[stunned]
Diving Thump
Minimum Damage: 13
Maximum Damage: 48
Attack Bonus: 15
Bleeding %: 0
Required Position: Stunned
Obtained Position: Grounded
Suffered Position: Grounded
1st Ability: Force of Will
2nd Ability: Pacification
total Ability: 68
到此为止 如果是照上面给的配点去点技能的话
应该还会
剩下90点
要怎麽用就看要冲 Groggy
Spiral Bomb
Minimum Damage: 9
Maximum Damage: 62
Attack Bonus: 22
Bleeding %: 0
Required Position: Groggy
Obtained Position: Grounded
Suffered Position: Bent down
1st Ability: Force of Will
2nd Ability: Pacification
total Ability: 78
或是 Bent down (建议 因为Groggy 已有超过三招 Bent down只有一招後期招
但是这招需要的时间比较久 看个人考量)
Super Powerbomb
Minimum Damage: 12
Maximum Damage: 60
Attack Bonus: 20
Bleeding %: 0
Required Position: Bent down
Obtained Position: Grounded
Suffered Position: Grounded
1st Ability: Tireless
2nd Ability: Force of Will
total Ability: 78
排版很乱......
不好意思......
ps jafacc 有一种奇怪的练法 现在乡民没什麽人能打赢他XD
抵抗型的可以参考上面的
或是问jafacc怎麽练的...XD
(一开始写的不知道有没有人看到XD)
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※ 编辑: RMice 来自: 61.227.168.23 (08/22 23:00)
2F:推 tylertsai:你真是太专业了 @@~ 我要好好花时间多看几次 08/22 23:18
3F:→ tylertsai:其实我点的方法真的是太随性了 08/22 23:20
4F:→ RMice:不会啦 每个人有每个人的考量 我是以招式为主 08/22 23:33
5F:推 floater:Endurance也有减伤,如果走减伤魔人的话,可以与Toughness 08/22 23:34
6F:→ floater:同点,求最有效的点数运用 08/22 23:34
7F:→ RMice:我觉得那要等招式都出来再一次点比较能提早练後期招 08/22 23:35
8F:→ RMice:我发现有个地方可以修改一下...等等喔... 08/22 23:36
※ 编辑: RMice 来自: 61.227.168.23 (08/22 23:43)
9F:推 floater:groggy有 Air Raid Siren 爆血20%可以练 08/22 23:53
10F:→ RMice:那个早就达到他的技能要求 所以我没写0.0 08/23 01:07
11F:推 jscjs:我觉得减伤真的很强..我打输一个LV5叫做Fan的胖子.. 08/23 02:32
12F:→ jscjs:他的减伤似乎很高 我的FIN技打他竟然只有devastating!! 08/23 02:33