※ [本文转录自 NBA 看板 #1QmkCEDa ] 作者: jack19931993 (三无少年) 看板: NBA 标题: Re: [讨论] 本季失望的球队 时间: Tue Apr 3 10:12:26 2018 我是没在关注亡者啦不知道亡者跟Maker谁比较惨，不过看看国外乡民的看法 好的不外乎是说他还有得分、火锅，或是他还年轻甚至说他是公鹿的未来(...ZZZ)之类的 不过坏的居多啦，如下 because HE IS BAD AND WEAK that is all 因为他烂又瘦，就那麽简单。 Because he's skinny/weak as shit and not aggressive at all. Dude needs to take roids lol 因为他瘦得像狗屎而且毫无侵略性，他需要固醇。 He's not good. Don't overvalue him. 他不好，别高估他了。 No he doesn't. Don't let one decent game fool you , i have to watch that guy every game and he usually contributes absolutely nothing but easy points for the other team as well as turnovers 不要让单一场好比赛就呼咙了你，我看了这家伙的每场比赛，而他除了贡献给对手跟失误一 样简单的得分机会外，毫无贡献。 He'd still bad terrible at any other position, maybe worse. He only theoretically has value as a center to pull opposing bigs out of the paint or force them to go small and let Giannis feast. 他在场上的任何位置都很恐怖，甚至更糟。他唯一的价值就是让对方中锋远离禁区让 Giannis可以往内线冲撞。 Because he sucks and weighs less than my biology textbook. 因为他烂，而且比我的生物课本还瘦！ Don't be so hard on him. You lose your athleticism as you age. 不要对他这麽严苛，人的体力总是会随着年纪退化。(Maker有低报年龄的嫌疑) Thin Maker is Roy Hibbert confirmed "Thin"(瘦) Maker 就是Roy Hibbert。 Sounds like he's got Dragan Bender syndrome 听起来像是得了Dragan Bender症候群 Dragan“Allergic to the paint” Bender Dragan "对禁区过敏" Bender Remember when Hibbert got 0pts, 0 rebounds in a PLAYOFF game?! 还记得Hibbert在季後赛0分0板吗？ Thon can’t play and shouldn’t be on the court. He looks lost and has a very low b-ball IQ... I’m not sure if he will ever be good the way he looks now. He is good at nothing besides being tall..... Thon不应该在场上，他看起来心不在焉而且缺乏篮球智商，我不确定他是否会像外界看好的 那样成长，但他除了高之外在场上毫无价值。 When you're playing pickup, tall guys are the best rebounders, in the NBA where everyone is a world class athlete, sometimes you have to be stronger and smarter to be a good rebounder, not just tall. 一般人打篮球身高高的或许是最佳篮板手，但在NBA每个人都是世界级身手，你必须更强壮 且更聪明地打球才能成为一个篮板手，只有高是没用的。 Just checked his stats for the year. He's averaging 5 points and 3 boards in 17 mins on terrible efficiency for a big. Why is this guy even in the league? 看了看他今年的数据，上场17分钟平均5分3篮板，对一个长人这是多麽糟的效率，为什麽这 家伙还能待在NBA？ Maybe I've just watched too many raptors games back when Andrea bargnani was our starter, but these poor rebounding stat lines for big men don't surprise me anymore. 或许我看了太多Bargnani在暴龙先发的比赛，这麽贫弱的篮板数据吓不倒我的。 He is really bad. He has not improved since last year. Not only are his numbers poor, but his feel for the game is very low. Not a smart help defender, poor PnR defender, and his lack of strength defending in the post is a big issue. And he is a really bad passer on offense, every elbow touch is an adventure. It isn't Kidd's fault (Kidd is a bad coach, but he doesn't control this). Bucks only have two centers. And Thon can't really play PF, you just can't play a player as bad at offense and defending in space as he is at PF. He is bad at any position. It is a shame. He knows he was better late last season than he is this season and he is self-aware. He is a smart dude and is known to work hard. Just seems to lack the talent necessary to make it. 他真的很糟，比起去年根本没进步。不只是差劲的数据，他在场上像是个游魂，协防差、 挡拆防守也差，而且他贫弱的对抗性是个大问题。 他是个差劲的传球者，每次在肘区看他持球我都很抖。 这不是Kidd的错(Kidd不是个好教练但这不是他能掌控的)，公鹿只有两名中锋而Maker甚至 扛不了大前锋，你不能让一个攻守都如此糟的人去打大前锋。 真的很可惜，他知道他上季打得比这季好，他有这种自我意识。他很聪明而且大家都知道他 很努力，但他就是缺乏天分去达到目标。 Domas Sabonis fucking destroyed him physically it was amazing 连Domas Sabonis都能摧毁他(物理上)真是吓坏我了。 Looks like pretty good stats for a 45 year old man. 看上去像是个45岁老人的数据。 nearing retirement 届临退休。 https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/85p1w8/thon_maker_has_played_23_minutes_t hon_maker_is_71/ https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/7p5g4i/i_dont_watch_bucks_games_but_stats _show_thon/ -- 别怀疑，Maker就是这麽糟。 ※ 引述《love1500274 (CoWuCoWu)》之铭言： : ※ 引述《andy80419 (怪我罗!!)》之铭言： : : 既然有惊奇，那也来讨论失望的球队好了！ : : 目前感到失望的球队是公鹿！ : : 本季希腊怪物爆发，可是球队战绩雷声大雨点小，始终都在五成徘徊目前东区第八。 : : 侧翼有希腊怪物 蜜豆汤 穆罕摩德 甲霸二 : : 後卫有小LBJ 澳洲小袋鼠 : : 虽然中锋存在感偏低（不知道名字） : : 这阵容打进季後赛没问题，但不应该在第八名徘徊吧。 虽然球团在辞掉心辅官（头发有 : : 像）後有拉起一波连胜，但後继无力，最後软掉，真的令人失望…。 : : 　　　 : 也不能说是失望拉 : 伤兵也是造成公鹿目前战绩 不上不下 : 只有老八位置附近徘徊的主要原因之一 : 後场两个主要轮替 Malcolm Brogdon 和 Matthew Dellavedova : 一个只打46场 一个打了37场就报销了 : 那几个救援後场也不如预期表现 : 直接找建宁公主回来救火 : 甚至现在连40岁的 Jason Terry都要拉上来先发 上场时间将近30分钟 : 少了两个射手(两个人本季3P% 37% ) : 公鹿三分也从去年的37% (联盟第10) 掉到 35.7% (21名) : 使原本内线战力薄弱的公鹿 雪上加霜 : 整体战力又往下掉一个档次 : 再来谈回内线的部分 : 攻守篮板在30支球队中 几乎是敬陪末座 : ORB 8.2 DRB 31.2 TRB 39.5 (分别排名於连盟29/29/30名......) : 看看公鹿队内的篮板前三排名 : 第一是字母哥 10个 第二是Henson 6.8个 第三是Middleton 5个 : 攻防都要字母哥一手包办 连篮板都要自己抓 : 今年季後赛没意外 第一轮就大概会被刷掉 : 夏天要做的就是 重新找个教练 : 看能不能在自由市场找到能护框大个 : 至於Jabari Parker 我是认为8成会续约拉 --

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