作者turkeyma (...)
看板Braves
标题[情报] Some Prospect Rankings
时间Tue Feb 1 16:02:02 2022
Keith Law top 100
38 Pache
61 Harris II
80 Langeliers
38. Cristian Pache, OF, Atlanta Braves
Age: 23 | 6-2 | 215 pounds
Bats: Right | Throws: Right
Previous ranking: No. 3
Pache began 2021 in the big leagues, didn’t hit, went on the injured list, came
back, didn’t hit some more, went on the injured list, was optioned to Triple A
, and never returned to the majors, even when Ronald Acuña Jr. tore his ACL. Pac
he has only had 72 plate appearances in the majors so far, far too few to change
his long-term outlook, but there’s no sugar-coating just how not-ready for big
-league pitching he is. Good fastballs got him and so did offspeed stuff, after
which there isn’t much left to hit. Pache came into 2021 with less than a month
’s worth of games above Double A, and the lack of reps against real pitching in
2020 may have hurt him more than most players, given how immature his approach
and pitch recognition are. Pache remains an elite defender in center, and he has
power if he can hit enough to get to it, so the bar for him to clear to be a re
gular is not that high — a .300 OBP and 20-25 homers would make him an above-av
erage regular given his defensive value. I firmly believe he’ll get there, but
it may take another 400 plate appearances in Triple A before he’s ready to cont
ribute in the majors.
61. Michael Harris, OF, Atlanta Braves
Age: 21 | 6-0 | 195 pounds
Bats: Left | Throws: Left
Drafted: No. 98 in 2019
Previous ranking: Unranked
Harris was Atlanta’s third-round pick in 2019 out of a Georgia high school, and
was so impressive in his pro debut in the Gulf Coast League that Atlanta had hi
m finish the summer in Low A. He started 2021 like a house on fire in High A, st
ruggled in mid-summer, then started to make some adjustments at the plate, notab
ly seeing more pitches to finish strongly. If this top 100 were something I did
weekly (please, no), he probably would have surged on the list, dropped off in J
uly and then re-entered around Labor Day. Harris is tooled out, a 70 runner who
played 70 defense in center and showed plus power against fastballs. He struggle
d with pitch recognition, especially against offspeed stuff, and his production
dipped as a result in midseason. There’s some reason to think he made a real ad
justment later in the year, however, with a 10 percent walk rate in the second h
alf as well. He doesn’t have to be Eddie Yost to have value; he’s going to sav
e a bunch of runs in center, and the 25 homer/20 steal upside I discussed in my
comment on him last February is still very much in play.
80. Shea Langeliers, C, Atlanta Braves
Age: 24 | 6-0 | 205 pounds
Bats: Right | Throws: Right
Drafted: No. 9 in 2019
Previous ranking: Just missed
Langeliers hasn’t risen to the status of the many elite catching prospects in b
aseball, but it’s not a mark against his defense — he can throw with the best
of them, he’s a solid-average receiver and he has plus power, just lacking the
hit tool upside of the likes of Gabriel Moreno and Francisco Alvarez. At the pla
te, he’s more of a mistake hitter right now, but during the pandemic he gained
the strength to punish those mistakes, with 22 homers in 92 Double-A games befor
e a late promotion to Triple-A Gwinnett. Langeliers threw out 42 percent of oppo
sing base stealers last year, after throwing out 41 percent in his debut season
in 2019, but he’s somewhat stiff behind the dish, so while his hands are good h
e may never be more than an average or slightly better than average glove man. H
e’s close to major-league ready and could probably be a backup for Atlanta righ
t now, with everyday upside as long as he keeps crushing mistakes.
另外,B/R 的farm ranking, 我勇竟然排到11 ,这倒是蛮不可思议的
(我一路从倒数第一开始找,找半天找不到…)
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A Historic moment...
May 30, 2003
Atlanta 5, NY Mets 2 at Shea Stadium
Winning Pitcher - Greg Maddux (4-5)
Losing Pitcher - Tom Glavine (5-5)
SV - John Smoltz(20) HR - C. Jones (9, off Glavine)
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1F:推 zerosaint : 感谢分享 02/01 17:57
2F:推 duppy : 还是希望有一天Pache的打击能够开窍 02/01 18:11
3F:→ turkeyma : Keith Law 有点出Langeliers 的防守面问题 ,不过 02/01 19:58
4F:→ turkeyma : stiff behind dish 到底是什麽状态,这必须实际上 02/01 19:58
5F:→ turkeyma : 有看比赛才知道了,是不够灵活吗? 02/01 19:58
6F:推 opqasd : 偷好球能力会有差 02/01 23:13
7F:推 opqasd : 其他report也有说他偷好球能力要再加强,不过这种 02/01 23:15
8F:→ opqasd : 事我想本来就是慢慢练的 02/01 23:15
9F:→ opqasd : 他主要缺点还是hitting普普而已 02/01 23:15
10F:→ turkeyma : 感谢说明 framing 的话 真的还不急 02/01 23:50
※ 编辑: turkeyma (220.136.212.5 台湾), 02/04/2022 19:56:58
12F:推 kingwei520 : Waters不知道怎麽样…如果他和Pache都没长 02/05 21:27
13F:→ kingwei520 : 出来,对勇勇真的颇有影响XD 02/05 21:28
14F:→ turkeyma : Keith Law # 17 02/07 23:23
16F:→ turkeyma : 平均起来大概就是中後段,但没有落到很後面 02/07 23:24
17F:→ turkeyma : 19年那批若今年养成继续好 就会上升 02/07 23:25
18F:推 opqasd : 那批天份上限不高,可能排名都不会很高 02/10 12:04
19F:→ opqasd : 短时间内勇勇农场要有啥突破性成长不太容易 02/10 12:04
20F:推 kingwei520 : 各方面看起来Freeman回来的机会越来越低 02/10 12:20
21F:→ kingwei520 : 勇勇的备案是要被扫农场的Olsen吗XD 02/10 12:21
22F:→ turkeyma : 连续有竞争力的球队 农场能排在中前段就好棒棒了 02/11 09:22
23F:→ turkeyma : 突破性成长倒是不需要去期待 只要再好一点即可 02/11 09:23
24F:推 zerosaint : 今年要有DH了,这样外野是不是再补一位呢 02/11 09:25
25F:推 synchron : Freeman动向未明前应该很难做什麽 QQ 02/11 12:39
26F:→ synchron : 封馆结束後优先处理的依然是Freeman 02/11 12:40
27F:→ righthand : 有DH 感觉大谷约满去躲人的机率上升了.... 02/11 13:47
28F:推 kingwei520 : DH很多人要分,阿酷、欧租再到某外野手 02/11 16:10
29F:推 kingwei520 : Freeman的续约真令人头痛 02/11 16:12
30F:推 kingwei520 : 但Freeman续约与否,Soler都可以先留 02/11 16:18
31F:→ kingwei520 : 或是Rosario、Duvall 02/11 16:18
32F:→ turkeyma : 你们都忘记古巴路人甲了吼? 人家内定中外野先发了 02/11 16:43
33F:→ turkeyma : 捏 02/11 16:43
34F:推 kingwei520 : 呵呵,我一直以为他是4号OF 02/12 09:50
35F:推 synchron : Duvall又不是FA….. 02/12 14:20
36F:→ zerosaint : 大佛还有一年约吧 02/12 15:46
37F:→ zerosaint : 古巴路人甲 我还不如期待Pache 02/12 15:48
38F:推 kingwei520 : Duvall要求1000万以上,勇勇没要跟XD 02/12 16:45
39F:→ turkeyma : 楼上在说啥…. Duvall’s contract was contended 02/12 19:38
40F:→ turkeyma : by Braves prior to the lockout 02/12 19:38
41F:推 kingwei520 : 哈哈哈,我没跟到,不知道他合约状况XD 02/12 21:38
42F:推 kingwei520 : 所以Duvall今年是领9M吗? 02/12 21:41
43F:→ turkeyma : 仲裁都停摆了 所以实际上大家领多少 目前都不知道 02/12 21:58
44F:→ turkeyma : 喔 02/12 21:58
45F:推 kingwei520 : Duvall正常是2022领7M,但他应该拒绝了 02/12 22:36
46F:→ kingwei520 : 有个买断3M这样。所以不确定他的合约搞定了没 02/12 22:37
50F:→ turkeyma : Jessie 被排到前十名蛮奇怪的 他要brrakout有难度 03/09 11:04
51F:→ turkeyma : ^^breakout 03/09 11:04
52F:推 opqasd : 因为排他後面的人也没什麽了不起的 03/09 20:05
53F:→ turkeyma : Tarnok/Grissom 的天花板比他高吧 03/10 09:07
54F:→ turkeyma : 不过反正就10,11,12 03/10 09:07
55F:推 opqasd : Grissom状况跟他半斤八两, Tarnok当牛的机会蛮大的y 03/10 10:33
56F:推 opqasd : 新版CBA通过之後可以预期球员薪资会在往上大跳一阶 03/11 09:28