作者Roawen (嘴炮型的效率)
看板Braves
标题[农场] Braves 2019 Top 20 Prospects(Sickels)
时间Tue Oct 30 10:39:09 2018
1.老问题 潜力新秀常常还是一狗票投手 打者很薄
JS这个第1给的很中肯 勇勇一狗票投手中 看起来
有ace潜力只有Ian Anderson 如果TT快速球的控
球能更棒 也会很接近
Kyle Wright过誉了 希望明年能给我打脸
2.因为毕业了不少人 今年B以上只剩14个 JS写的
第一队双城B以上的就有19个 目前看看整体还有
没有前10 前5是很难了
3.没想到JS对Allard这麽有信心 大家快来买
1) Ian Anderson, RHP, Grade A-: Age 20, first round pick from high school in
New York in 2016, posted 2.49 ERA in 119 innings between High-A and Double-A,
with 142/49 K/BB, only 87 hits and two homers allowed all year; plus
fastball, curveball and change-up have all developed nicely, throws strikes,
no deterioration in performance after being promoted; in my opinion he has
the best combination of upside and polish of all the Braves pitching
prospects; ETA late 2019.
2) Mike Soroka, RHP, Grade B+/A-: Age 21, first round pick in 2015 from high
school in Canada, posted 1.76 ERA in 31 innings between Triple-A and a Low-A
rehab outing, 34/6 K/BB, just 20 hits; posted 3.51 ERA in 25.2 major league
innings with 21/7 K/BB; pitching time limited by shoulder problems; reports
on recovery are good but shoulder stuff is inherently scary and knocks his
grade down a notch from what it would otherwise be; he’s ready for a
rotation spot if healthy; ETA 2019.
3) Touki Toussaint, RHP, Grade B+: Age 22, famously electric arm with
fastball up to 98 and nasty breaking ball; took huge step forward with his
command this year, posting 2.38 ERA with 163/57 K/BB in 136 innings between
Double-A and Triple-A, just 101 hits; posted 4.03 ERA in 29 major league
innings with 32/21 K/BB, just 18 hits; it is all a matter of control, stuff
is too good for the minors at this point so he may have some ups and downs in
the majors for a year or two to put the finishing touches on his command; ETA
2019.
4) Kyle Wright, RHP, Grade B+: Age 23, first round pick in 2017 out of
Vanderbilt, posted 3.46 ERA in 133/51 K/BB in 138 innings between Double-A
and Triple-A, 118 hits; threw six innings in the majors with five strikeouts,
six walks; fastball in mid-90s, mixed in with slider, cutter, change-up;
overpowering on the right day but can be inconsistent with his command and
have some games when he gets blown up, reminds me some of Kevin Gausman at
the same stage; ETA 2019.
5) Kolby Allard, LHP, Grade B+: Age 21, first round pick in 2015, posted 2.72
ERA in 112 innings in Triple-A with 89/34 K/BB, 102 hits; gave up 19 hits in
eight innings in the majors with 12.38 ERA; he’s obviously better than that;
doesn’t have the pure stuff of the guys above him but certainly no slouch
and can throw fastball, curve, change-up for quality strikes when he’s going
well; I like him more than some other analysts do for intuitive reasons I can
’t explain very clearly; ETA 2019.
6) Austin Riley, 3B, Grade B+: Age 21, comp round pick in 2015 from high
school in Mississippi; hit .294/.360/.522 with 30 doubles, 19 homers, 37
walks, 129 strikeouts in 408 at-bats between Double-A and Triple-A; defense
has improved dramatically over the last two years and he’s proven he can get
to his raw power; approach is aggressive and strikeout/contact concerns could
inhibit OBP and batting average when he reaches the majors; that said, I am
optimistic about him; ETA 2019.
7) Cristian Pache, OF, Grade B+: Age 19, signed out of the Dominican Republic
in 2015; hit .279/.307/.410 with nine homers, 20 walks, 97 strikeouts in 473
at-bats between High-A and Double-A; very young for these levels; stands out
for arm strength, 70-grade speed and strong defense; began to develop power
this year after hitting zero homers in 2017; still some uncertainties about
his approach but extremely impressive to see in person, tools are obviously
stand-out and the skills are coming along; ETA 2020.
8) Luiz Gohara, LHP, Grade B+: Age 22, out of Brazil, posted 4.81 ERA with
59/18 K/BB in 58 innings in Double-A/Triple-A with 5.95 ERA, 18/8 K/BB in 20
major league innings; progressed stalled this year with nagging injuries and
distracting family crises; I remain intrigued with his upside and still
believe he can become a dominant pitcher if he can get a handle on the
off-field stuff and stay healthy; Wayne Cavadi compares him to CC Sabathia in
terms of upside potential and I can see that, keeping in mind that CC was
also erratic in his early MLB exposure; ETA 2019.
9) Bryse Wilson, RHP, Grade B+: Age 20, fourth round pick in 2016 out of high
school, posted 3.44 ERA with 143/36 K/BB in 126 innings between High-A,
Double-A, Triple-A; posted 6/6 K/BB in seven major league innings; looks like
potential workhorse with 90+ sinker, slider, and change-up combined with good
control; doesn’t get as much press as the guys ahead of him but may end up
being just as successful; would be the top pitching prospect in many systems.
ETA 2019.
10) Drew Waters, OF, Grade B/B+: Age 19, second round pick in 2017 from high
school in Georgia; hit .293/.343/.476 with 39 doubles, nine homers, 29 walks,
105 strikeouts, 23 steals in 460 at-bats between High-A and Double-A;
switch-hitter with plus running speed, still learning to tap his power though
high doubles total is promising; another Braves hitter with aggressive
approach leading to OBP questions as he moves up but young enough to make
needed adjustments. ETA 2021.
11) Kyle Muller, LHP, Grade B: Age 21, second round pick in 2016 from high
school in Texas; posted 3.03 ERA with 129/46 K/BB in 140 innings between
Low-A, High-A, and Double-A; fastball velocity can be inconsistent but he
throws strikes and has made good progress developing curveball and change-up;
easy to overlook given the depth of pitching in this system; ETA late 2019.
12) Joey Wentz, LHP, Grade B: Age 21, comp round pick in 2016 from high
school in Kansas, limited to 67 innings by nagging injuries but pitched well
when healthy, 2.28 ERA with 53/24 K/BB, 49 hits in High-A; like Muller he has
a respectable low-90s fastball and an assortment of classic southpaw
secondaries; K-rate declined this year which bears watching; ETA 2020.
13) William Contreras, C, Grade B: Age 21, signed out of Venezuela in 2015,
brother of Willson Contreras; hit .285/.347/.436 between Low-A and High-A
with 11 homers, 35 walks, 89 strikeouts in 390 at-bats; defense needs more
polish (19 errors), has throwing arm and mobility to be a fine catcher but
still working out the kinks, should improve with experience; power developing
well and he controls the strike zone reasonably; has a shot as a regular with
continued development; ETA late 2020.
14) Tristan Beck, RHP, Grade B-/B: Age 22, fourth round pick in 2018 out of
Stanford, threw 4.2 innings without allowing a run in rookie ball; college
career was marred by injuries but effective when healthy with low-90s
fastball, slightly above-average curve, and plus change-up; relatively
polished and could move quickly through the system if he manages a pro
workload successfully; ETA 2021.
15) Wes Parsons, RHP, Grade C+: Age 26, older prospect but with a solid track
record, 2.76 ERA with 104/35 K/BB in 117 innings between Double-A and
Triple-A, 101 hits allowed; the youngsters ahead of him throw harder and have
gaudier press clippings but Parsons throws strikes with four average pitches
(two-seam, four-seam, slider, change-up) and has nothing left to prove in the
minors; fourth starter/long relief type but should not be underestimated; ETA
2019.
16) Freddy Tarnok, RHP, Grade C+: Age 19, third round pick in 2017 from high
school in Florida; posted 3.96 ERA in 77 innings in Low-A with 83/41 K/BB, 70
hits; raw, still learning how to pitch rather than just throw; curveball and
change-up inconsistent but flash well to go with his fastball up to 95; needs
to improve command and control but a high ceiling; ETA 2022.
17) Greyson Jenista, OF, Grade C+: Age 21, second round pick out of Wichita
State, hit .333/.377/.453 in 117 at-bats in Low-A but slumped to
.152/.230/.227 in 66 at-bats in High-A; lefty hitter with 6-4, 210 pound
build, plus power potential, also runs and throws well, I saw a lot of him in
college and he’s dangerous when his swing mechanics are in gear but can be
inconsistent on days when he loses the strike zone; ETA 2021.
18) Chad Sobotka, RHP, Grade C+: Age 25, fourth round pick in 2014 from South
Carolina-Upstate; posted 2.03 ERA in 58 innings between in
High-A/Double-A/Triple-A, 77/29 K/BB, just 30 hits allowed; posted 1.88 ERA
in 14 major league innings with 21/9 K/BB; really opened eyes after poor 2017
seasons; mid-to-upper-90s fastball and hard slider make him promising bullpen
asset if his command holds up; ETA 2019.
19) Huascar Ynoa, RHP, Grade C+: Age 20, acquired from Minnesota Twins in
Jaime Garcia trae in 2017; posted 3.63 ERA in 92 innings in Low-A with 100/42
K/BB; hit hard in High-A with 8.03 ERA in 25 innings, 31/12 K/BB but 33 hits;
struggles to keep mechanics consistent which hurts his command but there’s
good stuff here with low-mid-90s fastball, slider and change-up; he’s in the
right system to learn his craft; ETA 2022.
20) CJ Alexander, 3B, Grade C+: Age 22, 20th round pick in 2018 from State
College of Florida; destroyed pro pitching at .352/.429/.495 in 196 at-bats
between rookie ball and High-A, no loss of production at the higher levels;
draft status was deceptive; he was considered a fourth round talent and it
was a steal to get him in the 20th; in college had reputation as a power
hitter; he hit just two homers as a pro but showed better than expected pure
hitting skills; if he combines those two attributes, look out; ETA 2021.
OTHER GRADE C+ (could fit in slots 15-20): Thomas Burrows, LHP; Corbin
Clouse, LHP; Tucker Davidson, LHP; Justin Dean, OF; Jasseel De La Cruz, RHP;
Riley Delgado, INF; AJ Graffanino, INF; Alex Jackson, C; Adam McCreery, LHP;
Jefrey Ramos, OF; Trey Riley, RHP; Ricardo Sanchez, LHP; Jacob Webb, RHP;
Patrick Weigel, RHP
GRADE C: Derian Cruz, 2B; Victor De Hoyos, C; Travis Demeritte, OF;
Ray-Patrick Didder, INF; Jeremy Fernandez, OF; Josh Graham, RHP; Trey Harris,
OF; Miguel Jerez, LHP; Tanner Lawson, LHP; Drew Lugbauer, C-3B; Alan Rangel,
RHP; Matt Rowland, RHP; Braulio Vasquez, INF; Jeremy Walker, RHP; Isranel
Wilson, OF
The Braves have an insane amount of pitching talent but are not nearly as
deep in impact position players. I’m firm on Anderson at Number One and a
healthy Soroka at Number Two but the next seven slots could be ordered 50
different ways with valid logic. Spots 15 to 20 are also fungible and I went
through five or six different versions before settling on these guys as the
most interesting of the bunch.
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1F:推 bravefan : 当初Folty评价是A吗? 接下来几年要争冠希望有个ACE 10/30 11:26
2F:推 opqasd : Wright的控球有问题, 尤其是他的变化球控制跟变化 10/30 13:22
3F:推 ashidaka : B+以上还是有10个,TWINS才4个,应该还是TOP 5农场 10/30 13:23
4F:→ opqasd : 程度每场差异很大. 不过要说他目前是符合甚至略为 10/30 13:23
5F:→ opqasd : 超前进度. 才第一个完整球季就打到MLB要说overrated 10/30 13:24
6F:→ opqasd : 算是对他蛮苛求的 10/30 13:25
7F:→ opqasd : 我没有回去找Folty的评价, 不过依照Sickels的评断法 10/30 13:27
8F:→ opqasd : Folty当年了不起是B左右, 要到B+会蛮困难的 10/30 13:27
9F:→ opqasd : 他在太空人最後一年时候大概是有火球, 曲球好 10/30 13:29
10F:→ opqasd : 控球很烂. 他的滑球跟变速球都是到了蛹蛹, 开始打 10/30 13:29
11F:→ opqasd : 大联盟後才一个一个练出来的, 控球也是今年才较稳 10/30 13:29
12F:→ opqasd : 给到B已经是一个很好的评价, 就是MLB先发级有贡献 10/30 13:31
13F:→ opqasd : 选手, B+就已经是接近明星球员. 10/30 13:32
14F:推 usausausa : 好好养 Beuhler我们也能有 10/30 16:20
15F:推 bravefan : 看来FOLTY被我们养的还真好,为什麽球路到MLB才练啊 10/30 16:26
16F:推 opqasd : 在太空人农场连最擅长的快速球跟曲球都丢不进好球带 10/30 17:02
17F:→ opqasd : 还要让他练新球路吗XDXD 10/30 17:02
18F:→ inferce : 快点绑Folty补偿人家去年的0.1M无言仲裁吧 10/30 18:22
19F:推 MKAngelheart: 真的满满都是投手...Anderson明年会拉上来看看吧? 10/30 23:05
20F:→ sharok : 好投手最多只能维持不输球 有好的打击才能赢球 10/31 11:11
21F:推 kingwei520 : 投手 打线 牛棚都很重要 10/31 17:37
22F:→ bagayu : 不知有无可能盘来Clint Frazier,home town boy的说 10/31 22:46
23F:推 Rodriguez : 从教士那换来Raffy Lopez 11/02 00:51
24F:→ inferce : 鸡肋交易...XD 11/02 08:36
25F:推 wolfgang1113: 金宝跟麦肯会回来吗? 11/02 11:56
26F:推 turkeyma : 那个换回来应该暂时会是3A主战捕手吧 11/02 17:19
27F:→ pia2 : 金手套中3个,恭喜自由人阿铁MKKS 11/05 11:03
28F:推 synchron : 这次票选很有趣,感觉我们队上真的防很好的Albies S 11/05 12:28
29F:→ synchron : wanson Camargo Acuna 都没提名 11/05 12:28
30F:→ Automaticmai: MKKS怎麽拿金手套了! 11/05 12:42
31F:推 Rodriguez : 没提名大概是因为还太嫩XD 11/05 16:15
32F:推 synchron : Gohara 减了不少重量,想问总监大,单轮天赋Gohara 11/07 10:30
33F:→ synchron : 大概可以排在我们新秀投手的什麽位子 11/07 10:30
34F:推 opqasd : 高大厚实的左手先发,94-98mph快速球,65-70的滑球 11/07 11:33
35F:→ opqasd : ,50-55的变速球...控球身材态度都没问题的话应该 11/07 11:33
36F:→ opqasd : 至少在Touki之上,甚至可能是球界最好投手之一. 不 11/07 11:33
37F:→ opqasd : 过现实世界是很难发生这种事的啦. 11/07 11:33
38F:→ inferce : AA摆明要签Closer了,金宝友情价回归吧(误) 11/07 14:13
39F:推 synchron : 在Touki 之上不是只剩Anderson 跟Soraka 了 11/07 14:18
40F:推 opqasd : 他在2018年的确是排在勇士所有投手之上啊 11/07 15:08
41F:推 opqasd : 年前BA跟JS的排名Gohara都是蛹蛹投手第一,只输Acun 11/07 15:14
42F:→ opqasd : a. Gohara的天份从他被水手签下来那一刻就是那麽棒 11/07 15:14
43F:→ opqasd : ,让他起伏不定的一直都是球场外因素. 11/07 15:14
44F:推 turkeyma : 还是不看好 Gohara 球场外的因素最麻烦 11/07 18:52
45F:→ turkeyma : 减了35磅搞不好连机制都跑掉了 11/07 18:53
46F:推 MizunoTako : 没必要急着出手Gohara吧,他身价要比现在还低也很难 11/07 18:55
47F:→ MizunoTako : 给他一点时间重建身价,要上来补或是卖掉都比较好 11/07 18:55
48F:推 opqasd : 个人是觉得他迟早会成功,但是要多迟真的很难讲,在 11/07 22:03
49F:→ opqasd : 现阶段的蛹蛹也不见得有局数让他玩,这是很尴尬的地 11/07 22:03
50F:→ opqasd : 方. 打个比方来说,2年前的Folty放到今年蛹蛹也不 11/07 22:03
51F:→ opqasd : 太可能就让他这样炸一年来练. Gohara不是急於出清 11/07 22:03
52F:→ opqasd : 的小朋友,毕竟他还有options可以上上下下,年轻又 11/07 22:03
53F:→ opqasd : 有天赋. 但是也不会是非卖品,因为现阶段他问题不 11/07 22:03
54F:→ opqasd : 少. 如果Gohara为主的包裹能换到Realmuto或是其他 11/07 22:03
55F:→ opqasd : 很有价值的球员,哪我想AA应该会出手. 如果是拿Goha 11/07 22:03
56F:→ opqasd : ra去换像Duvall这种,就是脑袋有问题了吧. 11/07 22:03
57F:推 synchron : 记得Gohara 在水兵时期是个人纪律有点问题,今年就 11/07 23:31
58F:→ synchron : 完全是家庭因素(妈妈生病,过世?)去年他登板那几 11/07 23:31
59F:→ synchron : 场的表现让我真的好不想放掉他啊 11/07 23:31
60F:推 inferce : 官网说礼拜天我们已经丢了一个大包裹给鱼参考要换真 11/08 01:20
61F:→ inferce : 木头了 11/08 01:20
62F:推 MizunoTako : 有人说官网引用的消息有误...怀疑是大鱼在炒 11/08 01:27
63F:推 Smoltzy : 季前Gohara爸心脏病突发死在他怀里,季初妈妈开心脏 11/08 01:41
64F:→ Smoltzy : 记得好像是这样 11/08 01:41
65F:推 inferce : 这样官网的记者有点掉漆耶.... 11/08 01:43
66F:推 MizunoTako : 官网有写那个消息还未经证实啦XD 11/08 01:54
67F:→ pia2 : 我们挖了太色人的Mike Fast当GM特助,数据野球登场? 11/08 06:21
68F:推 synchron : Davidson 在AFL的冠军赛打了再见全垒打 11/18 08:17
69F:→ synchron : 然後跑垒的时候骨折了。。。Morales吗? 11/18 08:17