作者Roawen (嘴炮型的效率)
看板Braves
标题[John Sickels]ATL 2015 Top 20 Prospects
时间Wed Nov 12 09:44:48 2014
1.全美倒数的农场 不意外 但这也是Wren走人的原因之一吗XD
2.对Sims评价颇低 竟然只有工作马的等级 认为他速球外其他球种都还没长出来..
1) Jose Peraza, INF, Grade B+: Age 20, slick defender took step forward
offensively with .339/.364/.441 campaign in High-A/Double-A, with 60 steals.
There are still questions about his power and his walk rate is quite low, but
the complete package is worth buying into given youth, athleticism, and
consistent improvement.
2) Lucas Sims, RHP, Grade B+: Age 20, struggled in first half in High-A but
finished strong, 4.19 ERA with 107/57 K/BB in 157 innings, 146 hits. Still
projects as rotation workhorse with fastball up to mid-90s, secondaries still
under development but promising.
3) Christian Bethancourt, C, Grade B-: Age 23, his .248/.274/.274 line in the
majors is a fair representation of his ability in the batting average/OBP
departments and he will show more SLG in time. Great throwing arm, still
prone to mistakes, overaggressive approach cuts into his hitting. If he makes
some adjustments, think Miguel Olivo.
4) Ozhaino Albies, SS, Grade B-: Age 17, speedy contact hitter with
impressive defensive projection, athletic, already a polished hitter for his
age, hit .356/.429/.452 in the Appy League. Needs to get stronger and prove
himself in full-season ball but stock on the rise, could be at the top of
this list next year.
5) Braxton Davidson, OF-1B, Grade B-: 2014 first-round pick, age 18, hit zero
homers in first 50 pro games although scouts see lots of power in the bat.
Already draws walks, Nick Swisher-like potential.
6) Kyle Kubitza, 3B, Grade B-: Age 24, hit .295/.405/.470 in Double-A, nice
swing from the left side, draws walks, strikes out a lot, high OBP type, not
as much home run power as you’d expect given size/strength but not
punchless. Has made progress on defense, not a gold glove but will field well
enough to play regularly if the bat produces as expected.
7) Jason Hursh, RHP, Grade B-: Age 23, 3.58 ERA with 84/43 K/BB in 148
innings in Double-A, 1.65 GO/AO. I may like him more than I should due to
memories of seeing him pitch college ball, but his sinker is impressive and I
think the secondaries have more potential than the current low strikeout rate
implies. Workhorse type or possibly a multi-inning reliever.
8) Alec Grosser, RHP, Grade C+ : SLEEPER ALERT, age 19, 3.68 ERA with 63/22
K/BB in 64 innings in Appy League. Braves fans are well aware of him and he’
s starting to get more press nationally, so not a sleeper for much longer.
Needs to make full-season transition but low-90s fastball, slider, and
changeup project well. Another possible mid-rotation guy.
9) Shae Simmons, RHP, Grade C+: Age 24, impressive in the majors last year
with 2.91 ERA 23/11 K/BB in 22 innings. Not a fluke, but always difficult to
know where to rank relief prospects and there’s injury risk with this one,
shoulder injury that ended season early. If healthy I like his chances. Nice
late-round college find (22nd round, Southeast Missouri State, 2012).
10) Cody Martin, RHP, Grade C+: Age 25, 3.52 ERA with 142/56 K/BB in 156
innings in Triple-A. Not a high upside guy but knows how to pitch, throws
strikes, eats innings, back-end starter or relief option who is ready for a
trial.
11) Mauricio Cabrera, RHP, Grade C+: Age 21, missed most of season with
forearm injury and was ineffective in High-A due to command troubles when he
did pitch. Throws very hard, up to 98 if not higher, but struggles with
mechanics and control of secondary pitches. High-end closer if it all comes
together or a number three starter, but big risk too. Higher ceiling than
Martin.
12) Chasen Shreve, LHP, Grade C+: Age 24, as with Simmons his major league
success seems legitimate to me but ranking middle relief types on these lists
is problematic, especially when they could end up as LOOGYs. Unusually large
increase in his strikeout rate tracked reports of improved velocity and
sharper breaking stuff.
13) Williams Perez, RHP, Grade C+: Age 23, doesn’t get as much attention as
other Braves prospects but out-pitches most of them with sinker/change-up
combination, posted 2.91 ERA with 94/39 K/BB in 133 innings in Double-A. 6-1,
230 body weighs against him with observers but the stuff is decent and he
uses it well.
14) J.R. Graham, RHP, Grade C+: Age 24, would rank as high as six or seven on
this list if healthy. Horrific second half (8.20 ERA) and reports of
declining stuff in wake of 2013 shoulder injury put status in doubt. Did not
pitch better after moving to bullpen.
15) Johan Camargo, SS, Grade C+: Would rank as high as seven if you go by
tools and upside alone, age 20, from Panama, hit .266/.313/.326 in A-ball.
All projection and little production at this point, could develop into a
regular, or a bench guy, or nothing at all.
16) Kyle Wren, OF, Grade C+: Age 23, hit .290/.350/365 with 46 steals between
High-A and Double-A. Very fast, no power, decent on-base skills, can scoot in
center, classic fifth outfielder profile although some of these guys have
been playing more regularly as teams look for any defensive edge. That trend
could benefit someone like Wren.
17) Max Povse, RHP, Grade C+: Borderline C. Age 21, third round pick from
UNC-Greensboro, very tall at 6-8, rough secondaries were troublesome in
college but he made some progress in the Appy League, 3.42 ERA with 37/11
K/BB in 47 innings.
18) Garrett Fulenchek, RHP, Grade C: Borderline C+. HIGH CEILING ALERT. Would
rank higher on pure ability (Baseball Prospectus slots him aggressively at
fifth in the system, which may look like a great call four years from now),
age 18, struggled with consistency in rookie ball but second round pick could
become a three-pitch starting force if it all comes together. A year behind
Grosser but could be on similar trajectory.
19) Victor Reyes, OF, Grade C: Age 20, hit .342 in rookie ball in 2013 but
just .259/.309/.298 in Low-A in ’14, zero homers. Looks good in uniform,
nice swing, overall tools are there but no power yet, defense is ahead of
hitting at this point.
20) Daniel Castro, INF, Grade C: Age 21, hit .286/.312/.398 in
Double-A/Triple-A. From Mexico, held his own at a young age, good defensive
versatility. You could put many of the "other" Grade C guys in this slot but
Castro seems to me like a guy who could sneak up on us.
OTHER GRADE C PROSPECTS: John Cornely, RHP; Todd Cunningham, OF; Chris Diaz,
LHP; Jordan Edgerton, 3B; Sean Godfrey, OF; Phil Gosselin, INF; Ryne Harper,
RHP; Nate Hyatt, RHP; Juan Jaime, RHP; Kyle Kinman, LHP; Connor Lien, OF;
Dilmer Mejia, LHP; Aaron Northcraft, RHP; Wes Parsons, RHP; Elmer Reyes, INF;
Greg Ross, RHP; Carlos Salazar, RHP; Fernelys Sanchez, OF; Chad Sobotka, RHP;
Ian Thomas, LHP.
It is not secret that the Braves farm system has declined, a decline which
recently helped cost GM Frank Wren his job.
The organization has some strengths: there remains a nice group of
interesting arms, beginning with Lucas Sims, and the scouting staff has done
a good job finding useful arms in later round of the draft as well as
plucking pitchers out of independent ball. Simmons and Shreve were terrific
late-round finds and there are plenty of bullpen options to look at including
hard-throwing Juan Jaime and lefty Ian Thomas. They’ve also found some
middle infield talents and have found some bargains in Latin America, with
Peraza and Albies the best two current examples.
The big weakness here is obvious: bats. There aren’t many and most of the
interesting position guys are defense-oriented players. Kubitza could be an
exception and Braxton Davidson was one of the more exciting bats in the ’14
high school class, but more depth is obviously needed. If you want future
utility infielders there are many candidates.
The chain of causation for such problems is difficult for an outsider to
parse. Remember that this is the same organization that developed Freddie
Freeman and (more impressively from a sleeper perspective) Evan Gattis, so I
wouldn’t conclude that they simply can’t find hitters. Bargain-hunting in
the draft has been an issue: it seems to work with pitchers but less so with
hitters (Gattis excepted) in the modern context. It will be interesting to
see if the change in leadership opens up the purse strings or leads to a
change in philosophy.
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1F:推 bravefan : 前几年产出不错造成现在的农场贫瘠? 11/12 23:12
2F:→ Roawen : JS是传统数据派的 他要写这麽多人 通常读者也是看看 11/12 23:21
3F:→ Roawen : 就好 最近释出的还有BP的Top 10 写的内容好多了 11/12 23:22
4F:推 cj910 : 打者真的很贫弱 希望交易外野双J来填补一下 11/12 23:45
5F:→ opqasd : JS应该是说他会比较重视tool有没有转换成场上的成绩 11/13 10:00
6F:→ opqasd : tool真的很好的就算成绩还没出来他也是会评高分 11/13 10:01
7F:→ opqasd : 勇士这些人是有还不错的tool, 比如说Sims跟Hursh的 11/13 10:02
8F:→ opqasd : 速球, 但是变化球不稳定, 所以三振一直出不来 11/13 10:02
9F:→ opqasd : 速球就大概是高於平均, 变化球有很大进步空间跟可能 11/13 10:03
10F:→ opqasd : 控球普普通通, 大概就是只能拿这种排名 11/13 10:04
11F:→ opqasd : 倒是Sims我一点也不觉得以他的控球在勇士可以当工作 11/13 10:05
12F:→ opqasd : 马, 希望他的变化球可以练出来, 拿多一点三振 11/13 10:05
13F:→ opqasd : 投个6局左右就差不多了...最好最好应该是Hanson型 11/13 10:07
14F:→ opqasd : 不过这样他的变化球要变得很强才行XD 11/13 10:08
15F:→ opqasd : 我是觉得他评的算是中肯, 这几只的确是有上大联盟 11/13 10:53
16F:→ opqasd : 能力, 也有天分, 但是天份目前还没转化成成绩 11/13 10:53
17F:→ opqasd : 如果能有个breakout的球季, 前七名都算是有机会 11/13 10:56
18F:→ opqasd : 评价大幅上升的prospect 11/13 10:56
19F:→ opqasd : 後面的几个RP跟工具人没啥好讲的, 还有几只就是有伤 11/13 10:57
20F:→ opqasd : 或是还很小 11/13 10:57
21F:→ gfn423 : KyleWren被送去酒鬼了,换来ZachQuintana,斧头帮正 11/15 15:19
22F:→ gfn423 : 式告别Wren家族... 11/15 15:19
23F:推 bagayu : J.R. Graham GG了吗?...前两年不是还前几名?...@@" 11/16 23:51
24F:→ Roawen : 丁尺伤归後 今年2A成绩差强人意 大概转RP了 11/17 00:01
25F:推 opqasd : Graham伤後据说球速还在, 但是投球姿势跑掉了 11/17 00:06
26F:→ opqasd : 控球非常的糟糕, 有一阵子暴投乱飞很多, 变化球也 11/17 00:07
27F:→ opqasd : 都不出来 11/17 00:07
28F:推 EvanGattis : TLS被交易掉啦@@ 11/17 12:47
29F:推 qikl : 下一个可能就是楼上的Gattis 11/17 14:00
30F:推 EvanGattis : 我会好好练挡球的(泪 11/17 14:44
31F:推 opqasd : 扣掉挡球不说, Gattis的体型实在太大只, 蹲长久不太 11/17 21:51
32F:→ opqasd : 可能, 再加上他生涯前两季都不算很健康, 又快30了 11/17 21:52
33F:→ opqasd : 如果真的没有要拼这两季, 换一换是很好的选择 11/17 21:53
34F:→ opqasd : 情感上非常难过, 熊仔打击是真货, 能打有cluth个性 11/17 21:54
35F:→ opqasd : 又好, 有DH给他说不定就是David Ortiz了 11/17 21:55
36F:→ tucker : 只能说白熊不太适合国联球队~只希望不要为换而换 11/17 22:51
37F:推 cj910 : 说到挡球 Bethacourt接补能力很成熟 但是挡球也很烂 11/17 22:56
38F:推 opqasd : 也没有到很烂啦,不好而已,年轻捕手很多都这样。他 11/17 23:00
39F:→ opqasd : 有成为好防守捕手的天份,移动能力好,臂力好又准, 11/17 23:00
40F:→ opqasd : 挡球可以练。比较有问题的是打击 11/17 23:00
41F:推 cj910 : Bethancourt去年不是打的还不错?? 虽然看起来也是 11/17 23:08
42F:→ cj910 : 球来就打的type 比较好奇是他的长打 他的身材很好 11/17 23:09
43F:→ cj910 : 不知道有没有养出长打的可能性?? 11/17 23:10
44F:→ opqasd : 你都写完了啊XD 球来就打又没有长打, 这样还没问题? 11/18 07:47
45F:→ Roawen : Kyle Wren还可能成为ML称职的4号of Zach Quintana 11/18 13:01
46F:→ Roawen : 除了年轻外 几乎无任何较好的项目可言 这笔交易不知 11/18 13:02
47F:→ Roawen : 道在做什麽的 11/18 13:03
48F:→ opqasd : 铢九族 11/18 14:31
49F:推 synchron : 我也觉得Wren有机会成为不错的腿哥,对面的新秀不 11/19 00:17
50F:→ synchron : 熟就不说 11/19 00:17
51F:→ dahw : 这笔交易感觉只是为了把Wren丢掉而丢掉 实在看不懂 11/20 03:38
52F:→ Roawen : 刚看Tomahawk 才发现Graham跟Martin都没被放进40人 11/27 20:49
53F:→ Roawen : 名单 规则5被选走的机会超高的阿.. 再看一下作者狂 11/27 20:50
54F:→ Roawen : 酸腿弟Constanza为何可以占一个位置 然後Peraza好 11/27 20:51
55F:→ Roawen : 像也还没到要保护的时候... 这布局 看不懂阿~ 11/27 20:51
56F:→ Roawen : 作者真的讲得没错阿 哪有保护Williams Perez跟Yean 11/27 20:53
57F:→ Roawen : Carlos Gil 反而放掉两个接近ML的道理? 11/27 20:53
58F:推 opqasd : 大概想要交易掉吧, 至少Martin没甚麽用 12/04 15:28