Tigers president Scott Harris defends return in Skubal trade 老虎队总裁 Scott Harris 为 Skubal 交易中的回报进行辩护。 Alden Gonzalez https://shorturl.at/HzMjc Detroit Tigers president of baseball operations Scott Harris blamed himself for putting the team in a position to trade generational ace Tarik Skubal but lauded the prospects he received from the Los Angeles Dodgers in exchange. 底特律老虎队棒球营运总裁（president of baseball operations）Scott Harris 自责 让球队陷入不得不交易世代级王牌 Tarik Skubal 的境地，但他同时也大力赞扬了从洛杉 矶道奇队换回的新秀筹码。 Harris also took exception to the notion that he should've waited until closer to the trade deadline to maximize Skubal's return. Harris 也对「应该等到更接近交易大限时才出手，以将 Skubal 的交易回报最大化」这 种观点表达了异议。 "We came into this very well prepared," Harris said in a videoconference shortly after Monday's deadline. "We came into this with a firm idea of the type of deal that we wanted to ultimately land. And we had a deep understanding of what every organization had to offer. 「我们在进入这次谈判时做足了准备，」Harris 在周一交易大限结束後不久的视讯会议 中表示。「我们怀着非常明确的想法，清楚我们最终想要达成怎样的交易。我们也对每个 球团所能提供的筹码有着深入的了解。」 "I think there is a unique dynamic with a player like Tarik Skubal. Markets at the deadline for the top players are just different than the rest of the market. So, I understand the intuition that, 'Hey, you're supposed to wait until the very last second on a deal and then pull a trigger at the very last second to maximize a return.' That's not how markets for the top players work." 「我认为像 Tarik Skubal 这样的球员有着独特的市场动态。交易大限前顶级球员的市场 机制，与其他普通市场是完全不同的。所以，我理解那种直觉式的想法，觉得『嘿，你应 该等到最後一秒才做决定，在最後一刻扣下扳机才能拿到最大回报』。但顶级球员的市场 根本不是这样运作的。」 Harris praised outfield prospect Zyhir Hope for his combination of power and speed, his knack for putting together big league at-bats and his overall bat-to-ball skills. Harris identified River Ryan as a potential front-of-the-rotation starter, adding that he expects Ryan to join the major league roster in September. And he described Brady Smith as a projectable starter with an elite changeup. Harris 称赞了外野新秀 Zyhir Hope 的力量与速度结合能力、展现大联盟等级打席的诀 窍，以及整体优异的击球技巧（bat-to-ball skills）。Harris 将 River Ryan 视为潜 在的前段先发投手（front-of-the-rotation starter），并补充预计 Ryan 将会在九月 进入大联盟名单。他同时将 Brady Smith 描述为一位未来发展可期的先发投手，并拥有 一颗顶级的变速球。 But the Dodgers have as many as four outfield prospects graded higher in their system than Hope, and the Tampa Bay Rays and the Milwaukee Brewers, who were both deep in conversations for Skubal, possess some of the industry's deepest minor league systems. It prompted executives and scouts throughout the industry to wonder why Skubal, the reigning back-to-back American League Cy Young Award winner, didn't yield a bigger package -- or, at least, why this was the package that got the deal done a day and a half before the deadline. 然而，道奇队系统中有多达四名外野新秀的评级高於 Hope，而同样深入参与 Skubal 谈判 的坦帕湾光芒队和密尔瓦基酿酒人队，则拥有业界最深厚的农场系统之一。这引发了整个 业界的高阶主管和球探的质疑：为什麽刚完成美联赛扬奖二连霸的 Skubal 没有换回更大 的包裹──或者至少，为什麽会在交易大限前一天半，就拿这个包裹敲定交易？ "There wasn't any need to stretch it any further," Harris said. "The organizations that were involved were extremely aggressive, and they put in what I believe to be their max offers. And then they added to those offers also and got to the point of almost audible pain when they actually produced their best bold offers, and they gave it to us and we pulled the trigger. The notion that we should've waited 24 or 48 hours later and extracted more value -- that's garbage. That's not how these negotiations work." 「根本没有必要再拖下去了，」Harris 说。「参与其中的球团都展现了极强的侵略性， 而且他们都出了我认为的极限报价。他们甚至在这些报价之上继续加码，到了当他们给出 最敢给的终极报价时，几乎都能听到他们肉痛的叫声，他们交给我们後，我们就扣下了扳 机。那种认为我们应该多等 24 或 48 小时来榨取更多价值的想法──简直是胡扯。谈判 根本不是这样运作的。」 The Tigers approached this season with expectations of winning the AL Central, but their roster was ravaged by injury early, prompting a 6-22 record in May that had them tied for the worst mark in the major leagues. The Tigers then won 28 of their next 46 games. But their momentum ran out. 老虎队本赛季原本带着赢得美联中区冠军的期望开局，但他们的阵容在早期饱受伤病摧残 ，导致五月份仅打出 6 胜 22 败的战绩，一度并列大联盟最差。随後老虎队在接下来的 46 场比赛中赢了 28 场，但他们的气势最终还是耗尽了。 They lost back-to-back games to the last-place Kansas City Royals on July 25 and 26 then dropped two of three to the Baltimore Orioles thereafter. It was afterward that Harris decided he would trade away veteran players, most notably Skubal. 他们在 7 月 25 日与 26 日接连输给垫底的堪萨斯市皇家队，随後又在对阵巴尔的摩金 莺队的三连战中输掉两场。正是在这之後，Harris 决定将资深球员交易出去，其中最受 注目的莫过於 Skubal。 Casey Mize, another starting pitcher approaching free agency, also left, going to the San Diego Padres in exchange for 2024 first-round pick Kash Mayfield. 另一位即将成为自由球员的先发投手 Casey Mize 也离开了，他被交易至圣地牙哥教士队 ，换来 2024 年首轮指名新秀 Kash Mayfield。 Harris said that while he hates dealing away veteran players who can help the team win, it would've been "irresponsible" not to trade Skubal and Mize given their markets. Harris also took responsibility for the Tigers being in position to trade them in the first place. Harris 表示，虽然他讨厌卖掉能帮助球队赢球的资深球员，但考虑到他们在市场上的价 值，如果不交易 Skubal 和 Mize 将是「不负责任的」。Harris 也承担了让老虎队一开 始陷入不得不卖人境地的责任。 "I wanted to give this team every opportunity to make a really compelling case that we shouldn't do this," he said. "We just didn't make that case. It's not on the players. It's not on the coaches. It's on me." 「我原本想给这支球队每一个机会，去拿出强有力的理由来证明我们不该这麽做，」他说 。「我们只是没能拿出那个理由。这不是球员的错，也不是教练的错，责任在我。」 A late bloomer who lasted until the ninth round of the 2018 draft, Skubal emerged as one of the game's most talented pitchers in 2022 and 2023, and he took it to another level thereafter. From 2024 to 2025, Skubal went 31-10 with a 2.30 ERA and a whopping 469 strikeouts in 387⅓ innings. His 12.6 FanGraphs wins above replacement led all major league pitchers. 作为一名直到 2018 年选秀第九轮才被选中的大器晚成型球员，Skubal 在 2022 年和 2023 年展露头角，成为联盟中最具天赋的投手之一，随後更是将表现提升到了另一个层 次。从 2024 年到 2025 年，Skubal 投出 31 胜 10 败、防御率 2.30 的佳绩，并在 387又3分之1 局中狂飙 469 次三振。他在 FanGraphs 上的胜场贡献值（wins above replacement, WAR）高达 12.6，高居全大联盟投手之冠。 In 16 starts this year, Skubal boasts a 2.79 ERA while striking out 116 batters and issuing 14 walks in 96⅔ innings. The only thing that could stop him were bone chips that began to irritate his left elbow in late April. Skubal underwent a less-invasive, revolutionary NanoScope procedure and returned in about six weeks. His ERA in July was 2.03. 今年在 16 场先发中，Skubal 在 96又3分之2 局中送出 116 次三振与 14 次保送，拥有 一张 2.79 的优异防御率。唯一能阻挡他的，是四月下旬开始刺激他左肘的骨刺（bone chips）。Skubal 接受了侵入性较小且革命性的 NanoScope 关节镜微创手术，并在大约六 周後复出。他在七月的防御率高达 2.03。 In three months, Skubal, represented by the industry's most powerful agent in Scott Boras, will enter free agency with the hope of signing the largest contract ever rewarded to a starting pitcher. Harris said the Tigers approached him about an extension at one point -- he would not specify when -- and it was made clear to him that Skubal wanted to be a free agent. 在三个月後，由业界最有权势的经纪人 Scott Boras 代表的 Skubal 将进入自由球员市 场，有望签下先发投手历史上金额最大的合约。Harris 表示老虎队曾一度向他提出延长 合约的讨论──他未透漏具体时间──而对方向他明确表示 Skubal 希望进入自由市场。 "Which is totally his right," Harris said of Skubal, "and nobody should be upset about that. He has put himself in a position to be able to explore a market, and he decided that he wanted to do that and should not be criticized for it." 「这完全是他的权利，」Harris 在谈到 Skubal 时表示，「没有人应该为此感到不适。 他凭自己的实力站到了能够探索自由市场的位置，他决定要这麽做，不应该为此受到批评 。」 Harris was adamant that the Tigers are not waiving the white flag on this season. His team (54-58) is just 2½ games out of a playoff spot, albeit with five teams to jump, and recently called up top prospect Max Clark to play center field. Harris opted against trading second baseman Gleyber Torres and closer Kenley Jansen, both pending free agents, because, he said, the returns did not justify losing their impacts for the rest of this season. Harris 坚称老虎队并未对本赛季举白旗投降。他的球队（54 胜 58 败）距离季後赛席次 仅落後 2.5 场胜差，尽管前面还有五支球队需要超越，而且他们最近刚将顶级新秀 Max Clark 升上大联盟担任中外野手。Harris 选择不交易二垒手 Gleyber Torres 与终结者 Kenley Jansen（两人皆为合约即将到期的自由球员），因为他表示，换回的回报不足以抵 销失去他们在剩余赛季所带来的影响力。 But in the end, Harris believes the return on Skubal was too good to pass up. 但归根结底，Harris 认为交易 Skubal 所换得的回报实在太好，令人无法拒绝。 For validation, he pointed to Chicago Cubs center fielder Pete Crow-Armstrong and Philadelphia Phillies ace Zack Wheeler, both of whom were acquired for star players who were approaching free agency. 为了证明这一点，他举了芝加哥小熊队中外野手 Pete Crow-Armstrong 与费城人队王牌 投手 Zack Wheeler 为例，这两位球员当初都是用合约即将到期的明星球员交易换来的。 "There's a ton of impact to be had at these deals," Harris said, "and there's a real asymmetry between the buy side and the sell side, which contributes to this notion where when you're put in a position where you have to make these tough decisions, it would be irresponsible to not make those decisions. 「这类交易中蕴含着巨大的影响力，」Harris 表示，「而且买方与卖方之间存在着严重 的资讯与需求不对称，这促成了一种观念：当你处於必须做出这些艰难决策的位置时，不 做这些决定将是不负责的行为。」 "I'm not saying that the players that we got are going to be PCA or Zack Wheeler, but when you have an opportunity to add impact talent and guys that have ceilings as high as the guys that we have, they have a real chance to impact the organization." 「我并不是说我们换来的球员一定会成为下一个 PCA 或 Zack Wheeler，但当你有机会引 进具备即战力影响力且天赋天花板像我们换到的这几位一样高的球员时，他们真的有机会 对整个球团组织产生深远的影响。」 --

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