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标题[新闻] 华航正积极评估老旧A333之替代机种
时间Fri Jul 29 14:25:30 2022
[媒体名称]Reuters
[新闻日期]2022/7/28
[网址]
https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/taiwans-china-airlines-
eyes-a330-replacement-future-freighter-options-2022-07-28/
[内文]
好像没甚麽人注意到. 贴一下好了
Taiwan's China Airlines eyes A330 replacement, future freighter options
By Jamie Freed
July 28 (Reuters) - Taiwan's China Airlines Ltd (2610.TW) is "actively"
looking at options to replace its ageing fleet of 22 Airbus SE (AIR.PA) A330
widebodies and is also starting to examine next-generation freighter planes,
the company's president told Reuters.
The carrier, which has been profitable during much of the pandemic because of
a shift to cargo services, is now starting to gear up for a rebound in
passenger travel when Taiwan lifts quarantine rules for arrivals.
China Airlines is looking to phase out its A330s, a mainstay on regional
routes, as it modernises its fleet to reduce emissions and cut its fuel bill,
President Kao Shing-Hwang said in a written interview.
"We are actively studying our options for the A330 fleet's successor," he
said on Thursday. "China Airlines has invited a number of manufacturers to
submit their proposals."
He declined to comment on the timing of the planned order and the types under
consideration.
At other airlines, A330s are most often being replaced by the Airbus A330neo
and Boeing Co's (BA.N) rival 787, although options like the A350 and A321XLR,
both from Airbus, have been selected in some cases.
China Airlines had 14 A350s and 7 A320neos in its fleet as of June 30.
The carrier also has a large fleet of Boeing widebody freighters, including
18 747-400Fs and 4 777Fs, with the latter expected to reach 10 planes by 2024.
"We plan to continue retiring the 747-400F freighters from service, so new
models will still need to be introduced in the future," Kao said. "The
(Boeing) 777X and (Airbus) A350F freighters are both candidates for our next
freighter, though the decision is still being reviewed."
He declined to comment on the timing of the potential order.
The airline benefited from a surge in freight rates during the pandemic
because the grounding of passenger planes cut cargo carrying capacity, but
Kao said the space shortage was easing as travel demand rebounded and
airlines added more flights.
"The increase in belly cargo capacity will catch up to freighter capacity
causing more competitive freight rates to appear on the market," he said.
"Demand in Asia and the U.S. will, however, remain strong as they are key
manufacturing and consumer regions."
[心得]
简单翻一下
1. 华航正积极评估22架老旧A333的替代机种
2. RFP (request for proposal) 应已发给相关飞机制造商 (i.e. 波音+空中巴士)
来提案报价
(China Airlines has invited a number of manufacturers to submit their
proposals.")
3. 其他航空大多选择A330neo 或787 作为替代机种, 也有某些案例是选择A350 或
A321XLR 作为替代机种
4. 华航也计画持续的汰换老旧的744F机队; 777X 及 A350F 则是主要的候选对象
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正值美国众议院议长裴洛西有可能访问台湾之前夕, 再加上波音在前阵子的
英国法茵堡展中, 获得的双走道客机订单只有少到不能再少的区区几架.
现在这情势之复杂诡谲与华航当年下单购买A333有87%类似.
长荣自从疫情期间起,多次使用787-10 飞长程线的温哥华/西雅图 的实战经验应该
也会给华航一些选择上的启发.
甚至787-10也可放在松山机场飞台日航线也ok.
各位看倌希望搭哪种机型呢?
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1F：推 domago523: 上次不是来推销787 07/29 14:54
2F：推 t7101271328: 继续买359好了 07/29 14:56
3F：推 t7101271328: 长荣的7810没有豪经舱真的是一大败笔 07/29 14:58
4F：推 ATR72: 感觉787-10不买不行XD 07/29 15:27
5F：推 LewisRong: 裴洛西应该也会来推销787? 07/29 15:28
6F：推 ms0443001: 看一下其他跟团议员选区是不是在西雅图 07/29 15:34
7F：→ pwseki206: Pelosi：有批787好便宜的 07/29 15:47
8F：推 TsukimiyaAyu: 787啊 议长要来不给面子是不是啊 07/29 15:53
9F：推 Daniel104: 787啊！！ 07/29 16:04
10F：推 tom3333: 有确定要来吗？行程表不是写暂定两个字。 07/29 16:04
11F：推 ken3388732: 小道消息有听说是787 07/29 16:11
12F：推 t7101271328: 议长要来 787当然是加价卖阿 怎麽可能给便宜的XD 07/29 16:14
13F：推 TsukimiyaAyu: 美台关系史上最佳 07/29 16:15
14F：→ js52666: 外交大突破 07/29 16:37
15F：推 jim19911126: 787+350已经几乎是大航空们的标配了 07/29 16:49
16F：推 sk5566: 裴洛西: 没有朕的允许 不准蕞尔小岛 买空巴 07/29 17:24
17F：推 kimi255085: 比较想知道货机会是什麽飞机来接 哈哈 07/29 17:25
18F：推 zzzz8931: 787 07/29 17:37
19F：推 yanzistart: 货机应该777X 全747F的卡拉已经先冲了 07/29 17:40
20F：推 ju06080719: 787啦 载旗航空要负责做外交 07/29 17:41
21F：推 jamesgmp: 330真的赶快换掉，旧了 07/29 17:50
22F：推 driver0811: 买波音载货买空巴载人 07/29 18:01
24F：推 s21mo9025: 理性上应该增购359 加强机队运用弹性 07/29 18:42
25F：→ s21mo9025: 但感觉就是会被逼吞78X 07/29 18:42
26F：推 takuma: 买787会练就金手指！ 07/29 18:59
27F：推 dekirin: 359 07/29 21:39
28F：推 c52chungyuny: 787没豪经根本败笔 07/29 21:45
29F：推 tsuyoshi2501: 不用看了就是787，议长来台总要伴手礼 07/29 22:18
30F：推 mukuro: 星宇的330neo转给华航好了 07/29 22:25
31F：推 Answerme: 新航都787了 07/29 22:36
32F：推 mimicck: 787没豪经舱败笔+1 07/29 23:57
33F：推 dunkylu: 买359来取代333是什麽神逻辑？ 07/30 00:07
34F：推 doraemon129K: 新航确实有用短程版的A359 07/30 00:15
35F：→ taxlaw1991: SQ两种都用 07/30 00:28
36F：推 linlos: 787比较弹性运用吧？ 07/30 01:03
37F：推 kevabc1: 359取代333这麽好的逻辑哪来的神逻辑??? 07/30 01:16
38F：推 s21mo9025: 359 333载客差不多 359航程长了更多 加上华航本来已经 07/30 01:51
39F：→ s21mo9025: 有359机队 如果把广体机队统一的话 维修也会更加方便 07/30 01:51
40F：→ s21mo9025: 缺点是万一350系列出问题需要全面停飞检修的话会很麻 07/30 01:51
41F：→ s21mo9025: 烦 07/30 01:51
42F：→ s21mo9025: 某楼呛人之前先自己做点功课好吗 可怜 07/30 01:51
43F：推 s21mo9025: 不过话说回来 买787就可以当万一350出问题要全面停飞 07/30 01:56
44F：→ s21mo9025: 时的保险 倒也没什麽不好 07/30 01:56
45F：推 s21mo9025: 另外 以乘客出发点来说 350肯定是比787舒服些 07/30 02:00
46F：→ s21mo9025: 350机身比787宽 但经济舱都是一排9个位子 07/30 02:01
47F：推 kimi255085: 两种都用的航空公司真的是满多的欸 07/30 02:27
48F：推 dunkylu: 对航迷而言最贵的买下去就对了，大炮打小鸟就是爽！ 07/30 19:14
49F：→ jamesgmp: 拜托买350，不要787 07/30 19:42
50F：推 t7101271328: A359座位数比789多 但更为宽广 舒适度较佳 起飞时跑 07/30 20:35
51F：→ t7101271328: 道所需长度也较短 其实RCSS是可以让A359起降的 07/30 20:35
52F：推 akira30: 我记得350的对手算是777 07/30 21:39
53F：推 dunkylu: 350翼展超过松山操作限制 07/30 23:07
54F：推 choper: 787 有比350省油吗？ 07/31 01:45
55F：推 sj4: 要能停松山的吧 07/31 09:47
56F：→ sj4: 但350真的是舒适度大胜 07/31 09:47
57F：→ coconew: 这四台没有谁取代谁的问题，刚好定位都差一点330<787<350 07/31 10:57
58F：→ coconew: <777，让中长程宽体的选择更多 07/31 10:57
59F：推 acomp: 787-10 最初为中程区域航线设计，座位数最多，没有设豪经 07/31 10:59
60F：→ acomp: 舱也合理. 航程能飞到美西算是额外 bonus. 不过最经济的营 07/31 10:59
61F：→ acomp: 运距离还是中程航线 07/31 10:59
62F：→ acomp: 789 较适合客源略少的长程线. A359/10 比较适合和 77W 对 07/31 11:03
63F：→ acomp: 比 07/31 11:03
64F：→ acomp: A333汰换应该就A339 vs 787-10 07/31 11:04
65F：推 domago523: 差不多就看维护成本哪个低 一台飞10年维修谁比较省 07/31 11:15
66F：→ maskwearer: 借这篇文问一下为何板上几篇和裴洛西专机有关的文章 07/31 13:06
67F：→ maskwearer: 都被删掉了？ 07/31 13:06
68F：→ Kazamatsuri: 那是发文者自删的 你可以写信问他 07/31 13:34
69F：→ coolfish1103: 松山不改成能操作 359 华航就不太可能全部买 359。 07/31 14:07
70F：推 s21mo9025: 可是339听说也是翼展问题不能在松机操作？ 07/31 14:26
71F：→ TsukimiyaAyu: 议长 议长 在哪里 07/31 15:07
72F：推 dabochi: 359有很多个WV可以选 比如说JL的WV018 MTOW就只剩218T 07/31 17:01
73F：→ dabochi: 所以放区域用老实讲也是行得通 但是考虑到RCSS操作这点 07/31 17:03
74F：→ dabochi: 所以个人猜会是78X中奖的机率高 但是CI有可能会把744F跟 07/31 17:05
75F：→ dabochi: 777F换成359F来平衡 07/31 17:06
76F：→ dabochi: 321XLR 除非CI打算把RCKH甚至RCMQ加入飞纽澳或是夏威夷 07/31 17:15
77F：→ dabochi: 不然机会不高 07/31 17:16
78F：推 weijinsusu: 星宇的339验证飞行就没去过松山，翼展跟359一样，所以 07/31 21:06
79F：→ weijinsusu: 松山要飞虹桥跟羽田，787比较合适 07/31 21:06
80F：推 kimi255085: 也不一定要能停松山啦 松山改用321也不是不行 但最後 08/01 00:09
81F：→ kimi255085: 我猜还是乖乖吞78X XD 08/01 00:09
82F：推 astushi: 339的营运成本比较低呀，单价也低，印象中跟359不是同一 08/01 00:32
83F：→ astushi: 个级别的吧，不能只用座位数来看 08/01 00:32
84F：推 dunkylu: 买一堆359结果不能放松山，然後松山羽田这黄金航线只能 08/01 01:04
85F：→ dunkylu: 用座位数最少的321飞？当航空公司开身体健康的？购机规 08/01 01:04
86F：→ dunkylu: 划如果出问题是会把公司搞倒的，买飞机都不用考虑价格？ 08/01 01:04
87F：→ dunkylu: 买了一堆大而无当的机型只会拖垮整间公司，国内之前就有 08/01 01:04
88F：→ dunkylu: 个真实案例 08/01 01:04
89F：推 domago523: 买737max也是 08/01 11:02
90F：推 acomp: 买飞机是看营运和後勤成本. 新机价格一直都可以谈，几乎没 08/01 17:37
91F：→ acomp: 有大型航空用牌价买飞机 08/01 17:37
92F：→ acomp: 座位数越高，CASM 越低阿. 所以近年客机座位越塞越多. 如 08/01 17:45
93F：→ acomp: 果考量载货能力，那 MTOW 也能拿来比较. 航程反而是够用就 08/01 17:45
94F：→ acomp: 好. 疫情前运量爆发, 大家都想买座位越多的机型 08/01 17:45
95F：推 acomp: 现在航空业比较保守。若大型机销路差，搞不好正是个跟制造 08/01 17:52
96F：→ acomp: 商砍价的好时机 08/01 17:52
97F：推 NYC3: 华航货运比较赚,以载货调度为主优先考量比较好 08/01 20:01
98F：推 loworld: 787啦 你以为不用交保护费吗 08/04 15:33