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标题[翻译] 豆爷谈季後赛、钱球与...
时间Wed Oct 10 00:52:05 2012
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Beane on A's playoff run, 'Moneyball' and more
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20121007&content_id=39588488
Barry M. Bloom
MLB.com: How does this playoff experience differ for you among the other ones
in your long career here?
对你而言,这次的季後赛经验与以往有何不同?
Beane: Because so little from the outside was expected of us, there was a lot
of satisfaction among Bob, the front office and myself. We enjoyed this year
a lot. I think we felt like we were better in Spring Training than everybody
thought we were. And to see this come together and for these guys to be better
than anybody thought -- maybe a lot better -- it was fun to watch that on a
daily basis, especially the maturation of the young guys.
因为外界极少预期我们有此表现,Bob (Melvin)、制服组和我都相当满意,我们相当喜
欢今年。我认为,我们现在的感觉就像是在今年春训表现地比每个人所认为的还要来的
好。看着季後赛来到、这些球员比任何人认为的还要更棒,每天看着这些很有趣,特别
是在年轻选手们的成熟
MLB.com: What about Bob as a manager?
总教练Bob如何?
Beane: First of all, we're almost peers. We came up and played together in
the same era. He was a better player than I was. When he was managing in
Seattle and Arizona we stayed in touch. We were pretty close friends. Whenever
he was in town we'd always take time to have conversations. That's one of the
best things. We get along. We're like friends. I think we enjoy each other's
company. That helps when you're working together because not only do I like
him, but I respect him. So it's been great, not only from my standpoint, but
the whole front office. Not only have we had a good year on the field, but
it's been a lot of fun because when you're around each other 162 days a year
it always helps to get along so well.
首先,我们要算是同侪。我们在同一个年代打球,他是个比我优秀的球员。当他执掌
西雅图水手队与亚利桑纳响尾蛇队时,我们仍保持联络。我们是相当亲近的朋友。当他在
城里时,我们总会找时间聊聊。我认为我们喜爱彼此的球团。我喜欢他,也尊敬他,这对
我们共事上有所帮助。我跟整个制服组都觉得很棒
MLB.com: Well, you were pretty good friends with Bob Geren, too, weren't you?
你跟 Bob Geren (A's上一任总教练)也是相当好的朋友,不是吗?
Beane: Yeah, Bob [Geren] and I were just fine. But when you combine the
friendship Bob [Melvin] and I have with the year we've had on the field, it
kind of all comes together.
是的,我跟Bob (Geren)很好。但当你将我跟 Bob (Melvin)今年在场上培养起的友谊做比
较,两者差不多
MLB.com: It seems that you've built this team a little differently than you
have in the past. It has some speed. You steal bases. Bob hits and runs.
Isn't that counter to the old Moneyball philosophy that you used?
你建这支球队似乎与你过去的球队有些不同。现在这支队伍有些速度,你盗垒,Bob打带跑
。这没有违背你过去的Moneyball哲学吗?
Beane: Bob actually doesn't hit and run that much, and with the stolen bases
he's very selective. Bob does a great job knowing when to send guys. He does
it in the high-risk situations. The other thing that helps is that we're
hitting homers. We haven't hit homers in the recent past. That's always been
my favorite offensive play, the home run. We've done both, which is great.
事实上,Bob没有常使用打带跑战术,在盗垒战术上他也是有所选择。Bob知道何时对选手
发动战术,这做得很好。他在高风险的情况下执行。另外,我们能击出全垒打,这是过去
几年所没有的。我最爱的攻击表现一直以来就是全垒打。我们在这两方面都做到了,那很
棒
MLB.com: Has that been a change in philosophy?
钱球/魔球的哲学有所更动吗?
Beane: No, it's always about your personnel. It's what's available to you.
The manager has what he has, and he tries to use that in the best way that he
can. Bob did that brilliantly. We have Coco Crisp at the top of the order,
who can run. Bob's not going to send somebody just to randomly send him. He
sort of manages to the guys' strengths, and once again, when you have a few
guys who can run and a few guys who hit home runs you're going to score some
runs.
不,那总与人事有关,你有哪些可用之兵。总教练拥有他所拥有的,他试着尽可能以最佳
方式使用它。Bob做得极为出色。我们在打线的一开始有Coco Crisp,他很能跑。Bob也不
会随意地要谁往前推进。他依照选手的能力去管理他们,一次又一次。当你有些选手能跑
能打全垒打,你将会得到一些分数
MLB.com: Do you feel there have been misconceptions about the way you build a
ballclub?
你觉得一直以来人们对你建立球团的方式有所误解吗?
Beane: I've never really cared. What people feel about how we build a team is
none of my business. I enjoy doing this job, and whatever narrative someone
wants to create out there is something I've never concerned myself with.
我从未真正在意此事。人们对於我们建军的感想不是我的事。我享受从事这项工作,谁
怎麽描述,我从不关心
MLB.com: That must be tough, considering that a book and a movie have been
done about it.
那可能很艰难,在意书或电影 (意指Moneyball)所描述的
Beane: Nah, I'm good. I've never really gotten caught up in that narrative.
I've always sort of ignored what I consider to be the noise out there. It's
not hard. There are so many more interesting things to listen to and read out
there than about me.
我很好。我从未真的受描述所影响。我总忽略那些,那不辛苦。(在钱球/魔球电影与书
籍当中) 有更多比我有趣的事物可以去视听、阅读
MLB.com: This team is eerily similar to Bob's 2007 D-backs team, which was
swept by the Rockies in the National League Championship Series. Both had low
expectations and won their respective playoff spots and division titles at
the end of the season.
这支球队与Bob 07年的响尾蛇队异常地像,当年他们在国联冠军系列战被洛矶队横扫。
同样都在外界低期待下赢得季後赛资格与分区王座
Beane: I would agree with that. We have some young pitchers. They had some
young position players. Stephen Drew was there. The thing I was most proud of
our guys is, let's face it, for 161 games Texas was the best team in our
division. It's a fact. To be able to go toe to toe with them to the end was
incredible. We have a lot of respect for that group. We won a very difficult
division. The Angels are in that division. Seattle is a very, very good
competitive club, too. I mean, it was a grind getting here and these guys had
to earn it.
我同意,我们有些年轻投手,他们有一些年轻野手,Stephen Drew当时也在。我们这一队
最让我感到骄傲的是,在161场比赛期间,德州游骑兵是我们这一区最好的队伍,能与他
们激烈地竞争到最後相当令人无法置信。我们相当尊敬对手。我们在相当困难的分区中
胜出。天使在这一区,水手也是支相当相当具有竞争力的球队
MLB.com: What did you see in Drew coming back from last year's serious ankle
injury that you thought would fit in here? You made the deal with the D-backs
and GM Kevin Towers so late in the season, on Aug. 20.
你如何看待Drew正从去年严重的踝伤回到球场,你想过他会适合这吗?你和响尾蛇GM
Kevin Towers很晚才达成交易,今年8月20日
Beane: Stephen's always been a guy people respect. As a shortstop, he has
great ability. Kevin and I have a great relationship. At first, Kevin wasn't
going to move him to us. We talked before the July 31 deadline, but we stayed
in touch and as the season went on, we were able to make a deal. Stephen is a
great talent. We needed a little help in the middle of the infield. Bob had
some experience with him. Bob is a big fan of his. It was a little bit of a
perfect storm with me and Kevin's relationship and what they were trying to
do in Arizona. So it worked out for both sides.
Stephen (Drew)一直以来都是人们尊敬的家伙。身为游击手,他有很杰出的能力。Kevin
(小蛇GM)与我有良好关系。起初,Kevin不想让他来我们这。我们在731大限前谈过,
我们保持联络,随着球季继续进行下去,我们达成交易。Stephen有很棒的天赋。我们在
内野中线这块需要一些帮助。Bob (Melvin)与他合作过,Bob也是他的大粉丝
MLB.com: Are you going to pick up his option? There's a $10 million mutual
option in his contract for next season.
你会捡他 (指Stephen Drew)的option吗?他合约关於下一季的部份是1千万美元的option
,双方都可提
Beane: We don't have to make that decision for awhile. He's a guy, looking
down the road, we were aware the option was on there. That's a position we're
going to have to fill moving forward so we'll figure it out at the end.
我们这一阵子不会做出决定。我们知道有option。我们将必须在将来填补(游击)这个位置
,所以我们会在最後做出判断
MLB.com: You had two distinct offseasons. The first part, you moved Gio
Gonzalez, Andrew Bailey and Trevor Cahill in trades, and then you later signed
Crisp, Yoenis Cespedes and Bartolo Colon and traded for Seth Smith. What was
the whole philosophy behind what you did?
你有两个不同的休兵期。第一部分,你把 Gio Gonzalez, Andrew Bailey跟Trevor Cahill
交易掉,接着你签下Crisp, Yoenis Cespedes与Bartolo Colon,并将Seth Smith交易过来
。这背後的哲学为何?
Beane: It's a good question, because people have a tendency to look at what we
did during the winter, and we really didn't spend the whole winter tearing
down. We traded guys and received 10 players back, and then, because of the
financial flexibility, proceeded to build from there. There were just a number
of things that were done. It's just that out of the gate we traded our three
best players. When we were doing all our heavy lifting at that point people
were watching the NFL playoffs and they weren't paying attention to what we
were doing, which was kind of by design.
这是个好问题,因为人们有个趋势,会看我们在冬天做什麽,我们并未花了整个冬天进行
重组。我们将选手交易掉,并获得10名选手,因为有财务弹性 (个人译注: 达拉斯小牛在
今年夏天也是出现了"flexibility"这个概念),球队则因此建立。仅完成了几件事,只有
将我们最好的三位球员进行交易。我们在人们观看NFL季後赛时做了些繁重的事情,他们
并未注意我们做了些什麽,一切都在计画中
MLB.com: What did you see in Cespedes that other teams didn't?
你在Cespedes身上看到了些什麽别队没看到的?
Beane: Well, he's a great talent. Anytime you see him on a field, you can see
that. And he's also the type of talent and player we don't usually have access
to unless we happen to draft him. Certainly, that type of free agent is very
difficult to bring into our place. And the timing helped us. A lot of teams,
I think, had interest in him. But the fact that it was January and many teams
had spent most their money and there were only a few that had any left probably
helped us, too.
他有绝佳的天份,任何时候你看着球场上的他,你便能看到。他也是我们经常无法取得的
那种有天份的选手,除非透过选秀。当然,这类的自由球员很难来到我们队上,机缘帮了
我们。我认为很多球队对他有兴趣。但事实是,今年一月,许多球队已花了大笔的钱,所
剩无几,或许帮了我们
MLB.com: A $38 million contract is pretty out there for you guys. How did you
get your managing partner, Lew Wolff, to go along with that?
一张3千8百万的合约摆在那,你如何让你的合夥人Lew Wolff同意?
Beane: Woo. He pats on the back now, but there was some risk. There's risk in
any of those big deals. I thought as much as we could we did a good job with
our homework, and it worked out. Sometimes they do and sometimes they don't.
他目前相当赞扬,虽然当初是有些风险。任何大合约都有风险存在。我认为我们的功课做
的很足,也做的很好,也成功了
MLB.com: The A's were 82-46 this year with Cespedes in your lineup, so he had
to have the biggest impact on your club.
今年Cespedes出现在你们打线时,成绩是82胜46败,他对你们球团有重大影响
Beane: If you look at one guy, I guess that's true. But there's definitely a
sum of the parts here. You look at each guy on our club -- Sean Doolittle,
for example -- he's turned into one of the best setup guys in the league, and
Ryan Cook, too. As you go through each guy, what you realize is that even
though you might not have heard of them before, they're pretty good players.
The Cahill deal worked out well for Arizona, and so did Gio in Washington.
I've never viewed trades as a zero sum proposition. The idea is that both
sides are trying to achieve certain things. In most cases this year that's
the way it worked out, other than Bailey's injury. It was a disappointment
that he got hurt.
如果你只看一名球员,我猜你说的对。但很明显地是由许多部份所组成。你看看我们队上
每一名球员--拿Sean Doolittle来说--他变成联盟最佳的setup投手之一,Ryan Cook也是
。当你一一检视每个人,你会了解即便你之前没有听过他们,他们(其实)都是相当棒的选
手。Cahill交易案对於响尾蛇来说是成功的,Gio之於华盛顿国民队也是。我从来不会将
交易视为一桩零合的提案。两边都试着得到些什麽。今年除了Bailey受伤之外,大部分的
交易案是成功的。他受伤令人有些失望
MLB.com: Really, since the All-Star break you have almost an entirely new team
on the field.
明星赛後,你有一支几近全新的队伍在场上
Beane: We've had injuries. We've had to make changes on the fly. Brandon Moss
was an outfielder. We converted him to a first baseman down at Triple-A for a
week and brought him up. We picked up Brandon Inge after Scott Sizemore blew
out his knee. Inge got hurt, so we brought Josh Donaldson back up to play third
base. He was a catcher last year. That's the kind of season it's been.
我们有伤兵问题,我们必须做出改变。Brandon Moss曾是名外野手,我们在3A把他转成一
垒手一周 (BR上标示为13场),再将他升上来。我们在Scott Sizemore伤了膝盖後,将
Brandon Inge捡来。Inge受伤後,我们将Josh Donaldson再度升上来守三垒。他去年是
捕手。今年一直以来就是这样子的球季
MLB.com: The other thing about this team that's different from the teams of a
decade ago is that back then, you had the core of Eric Chavez, Miguel Tejada,
Barry Zito, Mark Mulder and Tim Hudson. But this team ...
关於这支球队的另一方面,它与十年前的那几队(A's)不同,那时候球队核心有Eric
Chavez, Miguel Tejada, Barry Zito, Mark Mulder与Tim Hudson等人,那这支球队...
Beane: Is a blank canvas. Eighteen of the 25 guys weren't even with us last
year. It's nice, though, when it comes together in one season like this.
空空的一幅画,25人名单中有18人去年不在我们阵中。当它交织成今年的这般情景也不错
MLB.com: And you won't have that kind of turnover this offseason.
这个休兵季你不会有像去年那样 (大量)的球员流动了
Beane: That's the nice thing. I've already booked my Hawaii vacation.
So it will be a little better for us.
那是件很棒的事情,我已预定好我的夏威夷假期
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※ 编辑: umin 来自: 111.249.200.23 (10/10 00:53)
1F:推 tunababy:turnover 应该指的是球员的流动率...也就是不会有大量的 10/10 01:42
2F:→ tunababy:球员交易了.... 10/10 01:43
3F:推 piercepaul:推 10/10 02:20
4F:推 nathancn:推 10/10 08:22
5F:→ umin:感谢tunababy大! 我再修正一下 10/10 08:54
※ 编辑: umin 来自: 111.249.205.60 (10/10 09:00)
6F:推 jackal810278:推~希望绿帽能赢得最後一场比赛 10/10 11:58
7F:推 chavy:推,希望今年季後赛有好表现,不要再像以前一样.. 10/10 12:26
8F:推 Athletic:大推 希望豆爷渡假的同时能再敲个几笔回来 10/11 09:28
9F:推 blockfloete:今年季後会大动做吗?目前看起来现在的阵容颇有未来的 10/11 11:43
10F:推 jerk0204:推 10/11 14:18