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标题[讨论] BP Houston Astros Top 11 Prospects
时间Wed Dec 15 00:22:09 2010
Four-Star Prospects
1. Jordan Lyles, RHP
2. Delino DeShields Jr., 2B/OF
Three-Star Prospects
3. Mike Foltynewicz, RHP
4. Ariel Ovando, OF
5. Jonathan Villar, SS
6. Jimmy Paredes, 2B
7. Tannuer Bushue, RHP
8. J.D. Martinez, OF
Two-Star Prospects
9. Mike Kvasnicka, 3B/OF/C
10. Jiovanni Mier, SS
11. Jose Altuve, 2B
Nine More:
12. Telvin Nash, 1B: This third-round pick from 2009 has some of the best raw
power in the system, but can he hit?
13. Jay Austin, OF: An intriguing center fielder, Austin has speed and power
potential, but his bat lags behind.
14. Austin Wates, OF: Wates is a contact-oriented hitter with speed and the
potential to move up this list after his full-season debut.
15. Aneury Rodriguez, RHP: This Rule 5 pick has a plus fastball and usable
secondary offerings.
16. Mark Melancon, RHP: The former Yankee reliever could earn a big-league
job in spring training.
17. J.B. Shuck, OF: He has real on-base ability, but his center field defense
is fringy.
18. Michael Feliz, RHP: This Dominican signee is highly projectable, but he
already has a suspension for enhancing.
19. Brian Bogusevic, OF: A converted outfielder and former pitcher, Bogusevic
should have career as a fourth outfielder.
20. Ross Seaton, RHP: His inability to miss bats led to a battering in the
Cal League.
1. Jordan Lyles, RHP
DOB: 10/19/90
Height/Weight: 6-4/185
Bats/Throws: R/R
Drafted/Signed: Supplemental first round, 2008, Hartsville HS (SC)
2010 Stats: 3.12 ERA (127.0-133-35-115) at Double-A (21 G); 5.40 ERA
(31.2-48-11-22) at Triple-A (6 G)
Best/Worst Tool: Command/velocity
Year in Review: The top pitching prospect in the system not only skipped a
level but succeed in Double-A as a teenager.
The Good: Lyles was arguably the most advanced teenage arm in baseball last
year. Using a deep arsenal, he pounds the strike zone and uses all four
quadrants effectively while constantly keeping hitters off-balance. His 89-91
mph fastball plays up thanks to location and movement, and he gets ahead in
the count to set up a wealth of off-speed offerings, the best of which is a
plus curveball. His change-up is advanced for his age, and he'll mix in an
occasional slider and mid-80s hybrid pitch that resembles a cutter.
The Bad: Lyles has little margin for error, and his inability to blow away
hitters led to some struggles following a late-season promotion to Triple-A.
Despite his length and a frame that should fill out, he's not very
projectable; it seems like his current velocity already requires effort,
leaving many to feel he's close to his ceiling.
Ephemera: Of the 12 home runs surrendered by Lyles in 2010, seven of them
were hit by batters leading off an inning.
Perfect World Projection: He could be a dependable, consistently good third
starter.
Fantasy Impact: He issues walks while keeping his WHIP down and will have a
big chunk of innings with a solid ERA, but he's not going to be a big impact
type.
Path to the Big Leagues: Lyles will return to Triple-A as a 20-year-old in
2011 at Houston's new Oklahoma City affiliate, and could make his debut
before his 21st birthday.
ETA: Late 2011
2. Delino DeShields Jr., 2B/OF
DOB: 8/16/92
Height/Weight: 5-9/188
Bats/Throws: R/R
Drafted/Signed: First round, 2010, Woodward Academy (GA)
2010 Stats: .111/.200/.111 at Gulf Coast Rookie (2 G); .313/.356/.433 at
Appalachian Rookie (16 G)
Best/Worst Tool: Speed/fielding
Year in Review: The son of 13-year big-leaguer Delino DeShields moved up
draft boards throughout the spring, but it was still a surprise to see him go
eighth overall in June.
The Good: DeShields is smaller than his father, but he is arguably a better
all-around athlete. He's a plus-plus runner who already knows how to use his
speed in game situations, and he generates surprisingly solid gap power with
a quick compact swing, which could lead to double-digit home-run totals down
the road. He gets strong grades for both his intelligence and makeup.
The Bad: DeShields grew up as an outfielder and is projected as a good center
fielder, but the Astros are going to try him out at second base in 2011,
which will likely come with some growing pains. He needs to learn how to let
his power work for him and focus more on contact as opposed to pulling the
ball.
Ephemera: A private school known more for its academics than sports, Woodward
Academy has produced just two baseball draftees, but its alumni include
presidential daughter Amy Carter and former senator Phil Graham.
Perfect World Projection: The hope is that he can be very similar to his
father but a better pure hitter.
Fantasy Impact: He's worth drafting for steals alone.
Path to the Big Leagues: DeShields will transfer to second base for his
full-season debut in the Sally League.
ETA: 2014
3. Mike Foltynewicz, RHP
DOB: 10/7/91
Height/Weight: 6-4/200
Bats/Throws: R/R
Drafted/Signed: First round, 2010, Minooka HS (IL)
2010 Stats: 4.03 ERA (44.2-46-15-39) at Rookie (12 G)
Best/Worst Tool: Fastball/Changeup
Year in Review: The top high school player in Illinois pitched at his best in
front of top scouts, and he was landed with the 19th overall pick.
The Good: Foltynewicz is a classic power right-hander in terms of both frame
and stuff. His low-to-mid-90s fastball generates plenty of whiffs, and he'll
flash a plus hard curveball with heavy break. He has some feel for a
change-up and goes after hitters aggressively.
The Bad: Foltynewicz baffled scouts with his inconsistency both in the spring
and after signing, as he peaked at 97 mph in high school and had other
outings where he'd rarely top 91. His curveball, changeup, and command all
come and go, which some attribute to a delivery that needs to be smoothed
out. More than anything, he's a cold-weather pitcher who needs innings.
Ephemera: The best 19th overall pick in draft history is easily Roger Clemens
(1983), but no other pitcher taken in that slot has won more than 54
big-league games.
Perfect World Projection: Foltynewicz has a higher ceiling than Lyles, though
he's far further from reaching it.
Fantasy Impact: If he completely actualizes, he'll be a star-level pitcher.
Path to the Big Leagues: Foltynewicz is ready for a full-season assignment,
but he's expected to be a one-level-per-year type.
ETA: 2013
4. Ariel Ovando, OF
DOB: 9/15/93
Height/Weight: 6-4/190
Bats/Throws: L/L
Drafted/Signed: 2010, Dominican Republic
2010 Stats: Did Not Play
Best/Worst Tool: Power/speed
Year in Review: The Astros made their biggest impact in Latin America by
signing one of the top international players available this summer to a $2.6
million bonus.
The Good: Ovando has all of the tools to be a classic right fielder. His long
arms give him plus-plus raw power from the left side, and he has bat speed
and plenty of leverage in a swing that features plenty of back-to-front
weight transfer. He's an average runner and good outfielder with
above-average run strength.
The Bad: Like any 17-year-old who has yet to play in the United States,
Ovando is exceedingly raw, with most questions revolving around his pure
hitting skills, as the timing mechanism in his swing could leave him
susceptible to good off-speed pitches. He's likely lose speed as his body
matures.
Ephemera: Ovando's bonus is the largest ever paid by the Astros for an
amateur player, including draftees.
Perfect World Projection: No position player in the system comes close to
Ovando's ceiling, but he's also eons from reaching it.
Fantasy Impact: It's not worth discussing yet.
Path to the Big Leagues: Ovando is expected to make his pro debut at one of
Houston's short-season affiliates in June.
ETA: 2015
5. Jonathan Villar, SS
DOB: 5/2/91
Height/Weight: 6-1/180
Bats/Throws: R/R
Drafted/Signed: 2008, Dominican Republic (Phillies)
2010 Stats: .272/.332/.358 at Low-A with Philadelphia (100 G); .225/.294/.372
at High-A with Houston (32 G)
Best/Worst Tool: Speed/power
Year in Review: This ultra-athletic shortstop impressed with the Phillies and
Houston following his inclusion in the Roy Oswalt trade.
The Good: Villar has the tools to be an above-average everyday shortstop. He
has bat speed with enough wrist strength to occasionally sting a ball, and he
has excellent speed that he knows how to use on the basepaths. He's capable
of jaw-dropping defensive plays, combining his wheels with good instincts
that give him excellent range to both sides, and also showcases enough arm
strength to make plays from deep in the hole.
The Bad: Villar plays the game completely out of control at times, which
keeps him from taking advantage of his physical ability. He swings at
anything, leading to 153 strikeouts and just 38 walks in 2010, and needs to
focus more on contact. One Sally League scout claimed Villar made the five
best plays he saw all year, but also the five worst, as he committed 56
errors in just 130 games, often on the most routine of plays.
Ephemera: Clearly not a night owl, Villar hit .412 in 22 day games in 2010,
with a mark of just .236 when playing under the lights.
Perfect World Projection: He could be a well above-average defender with gap
power and speed.
Fantasy Impact: The stolen bases alone will provide value, and he could end
up with good power for a middle infielder.
Path to the Big Leagues: After struggling there at the end of 2010, Villar
should return to High-A Lancaster to begin the year.
ETA: 2013
6. Jimmy Paredes, 2B
DOB: 11/25/88
Height/Weight: 6-1/178
Bats/Throws: B/R
Drafted/Signed: 2006, Dominican Republic
2010 Stats: .282/.312/.408 at Low-A with New York (99 G); .299/.331/.442 at
Low-A with Houston (34 G)
Best/Worst Tool: Speed/glove
Year in Review: This second baseman had a semi-breakout in his full-season
debut and was a key player in the deal that sent Lance Berkman to New York.
The Good: On a pure tools level, Paredes easily impresses. He's a
switch-hitter who is equally adept from both sides and flashes the ability to
drive balls. His speed ranks with Villar, and he stole 50 bases in 2010 while
being caught just 11 times. His arm is his best defensive tool with enough
strength and accuracy to play on the left side of the infield.
The Bad: Paredes is a poor glove man who needs to work on his jumps, hands,
and transfer. The hope is that he can get good enough at second to stick
there and avoid a move to the outfield. He's a highly aggressive hitter who
looks for fastballs early and often finds himself behind in the count.
Ephemera: Occasionally spending time on the left side of the infield or even
designated hitter for Low-A Charleston, Paredes hit just .259 when penciled
in as a second baseman, but .342 at all other positions.
Perfect World Projection: He could be an everyday second baseman with speed
and a bit of pop in the bat.
Fantasy Impact: He'll likely be worth more in fantasy than real baseball,
especially in classic four-category leagues.
Path to the Big Leagues: Parades will join Villar at High-A to form an
intriguing double-play combo in one of baseball's best offensive parks.
ETA: 2013
7. Tanner Bushue, RHP
DOB: 6/20/91
Height/Weight: 6-4/180
Bats/Throws: R/R
Drafted/Signed: Second round, 2009, South Central HS (IL)
2010 Stats: 4.11 ERA (133.2-129-48-114) at Low-A (25 G)
Best/Worst Tool: Fastball/change-up
Year in Review: A second-round pick from a small Midwest high school, Bushue
had plenty of good starts in his full-season debut, but also proved he still
has plenty of work to do.
The Good: When Bushue has everything going, he's a tall, athletic,
loose-armed, and highly projectable right-hander. He has plus velocity now,
with room for more down the road. He'll flash a power breaking ball with good
spin, and tends to throw strikes with both pitches.
The Bad: Bushue remains more promise than reality. His curveball ranges from
plus to well below average, and his change-up continues to be little more
than a show-me offering. He seemed to be battling with his mechanics at times
during the season, costing him both velocity and command. He's tends to work
in the upper part of the strike zone and has a disturbingly high fly-ball
rate.
Ephemera: Bushue allowed 28 hits and 21 runs over 25 first innings in 2010,
yet over the same number of second innings, he surrendered just four runs on
10 hits.
Perfect World Projection: He'll be a solid but unspectacular mid-rotation
starter, but there's still a ceiling here.
Fantasy Impact: Limited.
Path to the Big Leagues: Bushue will move up one level in 2011, and Lancaster
will be no friend to his fly-ball tendencies.
ETA: 2013
8. J.D. Martinez, OF
DOB: 8/21/87
Height/Weight: 6-3/175
Bats/Throws: R/R
Drafted/Signed: 20th round, 2009, Nova Southeastern University
2010 Stats: .362/.433/.598 at Low-A (88 G); .302/.357/.407 at High-A (50 G)
Best/Worst Tool: Bat/speed
Year in Review: This little-known 20th-round pick won Sally League MVP honors
and then kept hitting after a move to Double-A.
The Good: As surprising as Martinez's numbers are, scouts don't think he's a
fluke. He has a good approach to go with outstanding hands and a quick, quiet
swing that leads to hard contact to all fields and gap power. He's a good
defensive outfielder with an average arm.
The Bad: For many, Martinez profiles as no more than a tweener. He's a
below-average runner who is limited to a corner, and he lacks the power to
project as an everyday player there.
Ephemera: Trying to emulate Pat Tabler, Martinez is a career .500 hitter
(9-for-18) with the bases loaded.
Perfect World Projection: He could be a second-division starter or good extra
bat on a championship-level team.
Fantasy Impact: He won't provide much power for his position and little
speed, but he should hit for average.
Path to the Big Leagues: Already 23, Martinez could move up to Triple-A
Oklahoma City with a strong spring, and he has an outside shot at reaching
the big leagues before the year is over.
ETA: 2012
9. Mike Kvasnicka, 3B/OF/C
DOB: 12/7/88
Height/Weight: 6-2/200
Bats/Throws: R/R
Drafted/Signed: Supplemental first round, 2010, University of Minnesota
2010 Stats: .234/.305/.337 at Short-season (68 G)
Best/Worst Tool: Bat/glove
Year in Review: Had scouts gotten more looks at him behind the plate,
Kvasnicka might have gone in the first round instead of falling to the
sandwich round.
The Good: Kvasnicka is a strong-bodied player with hitting ability. Despite
struggles in his debut, he projects to hit for both average and solid power
thanks to a line-drive swing with strength and leverage. He has a solid arm
and has potential at three positions, the most intriguing of which is
catcher, where he showed surprising promise in college despite playing there
sparingly. Scouts are nearly universal in their acclaim for Kvasnicka's
makeup and effort.
The Bad: While Kvasnicka is well-rounded, other than below-average speed, he
lacks a true plus tool. There's a trigger in his swing that sometimes leaves
him a bit long and behind good fastballs. He's a tough third baseman who
often gets handcuffed by ground balls.
Ephemera: A second-generation gopher, Mike's father, Jay, was a eighth-round
pick by the Twins in 1988, and made it as high as Triple-A as a left-handed
outfielder with speed.
Perfect World Projection: It's hard to know without a position. Obviously, if
he can stick behind the plate, his value moves up significantly.
Fantasy Impact: He does some things well, but none at a star level. Again,
position will be key.
Path to the Big Leagues: Kvasnicka will play at one of the Astros' A-level
affiliates, likely seeing the majority of his playing time at third base.
Like Lyles, there's not a lot of star potential here, but he could move
quickly.
ETA: 2013
10. Jiovanni Mier, SS
DOB: 8/26/90
Height/Weight: 6-2/175
Bats/Throws: R/R
Drafted/Signed: First round, 2009, Bonita HS (CA)
2010 Stats: .235/.323/.314 at Low-A (131 G)
Best/Worst Tool: Glove/bat
Year in Review: The Astros' first-round pick in 2009 failed to build on his
surprising debut by collapsing offensively at Low-A.
The Good: Especially after his offensive struggles, any discussion of Mier
begins with his glove, as his range, hands, and arm all rate as above average
at a position where plus defenders are increasingly difficult to find. There
are some good signs from his numbers if you look for them: he had 63 walks
and 31 doubles on the year, and a .279 batting average in his last 36 games.
The Bad: Mier often seemed lost at the plate in 2010, leading to some
mechanical tinkering that took him backward. “Sometimes he'd try to hit for
contact, sometimes he'd try to hit for power, and sometimes he'd just try to
get a walk,” said one scout, adding, “He never really looked focused or
comfortable up there.” He can get rushed defensively and committed 34
errors, but it's not a long-term concern.
Ephemera: Mier's older brother, Jesse, was a 12th-round pick in 2007 who was
selected by the Rangers in the Triple-A phase of last week's Rule 5 draft.
Perfect World Projection: He could be an above-average defensive shortstop
with just enough bat to play every day.
Fantasy Impact: What's the opposite of impact?
Path to the Big Leagues: Unless the Astros want to rush a prospect ahead of
him, Mier might begin 2011 by repeating Low-A.
ETA: 2014
11. Jose Altuve, 2B
DOB: 5/6/90
Height/Weight: 5-5/148
Bats/Throws: R/R
Drafted/Signed: Venezuela, 2006
2010 Stats: .308/.364/.445 at Low-A (94 G); .276/.333/.457 at High-A (31 G)
Best/Worst Tool: Hit/arm
Year in Review: Among the strangest prospects in the game, Altuve performed
at both Low- and High-A, while continuing to hit against much tougher
competition in the Venezuelan Winter League.
The Good: As mixed as scouts are on Altuve, they are almost universally
agreed when discussing how much they enjoy watching him play. He's a pure
contact hitter with tremendous plate coverage and power that borders on
shocking considering his size. He's an above-average runner and a
fundamentally sound defender who makes the play on every ball he gets to.
The Bad: Scouts find it difficult to wrap their heads around Altuve, who is
thought to be even shorter than his listed height, and leaving him without
comparison in modern baseball. He could use a more patient approach at the
plate, and he is an inefficient basestealer.
Ephemera: More than one-third of Altuve's 33 Sally League walks came in the
first innings of games, yet none of his nine free passes at Lancaster did.
Perfect World Projection: Altuve is so unique that it's hard to figure out
just what he can be. At the same time, it's hard to argue with his talent.
Hey, it worked for Wee Willie Keeler, right?
Fantasy Impact: Stolen bases, average, and a bit of power... there's at least
a chance he can help.
Path to the Big Leagues: With so many middle infielders at the lower levels,
somebody is going to get rushed to Double-A, and it just might be Altuve.
ETA: 2013.
The Sleeper: A seventh-round pick in June, catcher Roberto Pena is a
switch-hitter with advanced defensive skills, including a plus-plus arm.
Top 10 Talents 25 And Under (born 4/1/85 or later)
1. Jordan Lyles, RHP
2. Jason Castro, C
3. Delino DeShields, 2B/OF
4. Brett Wallace, 1B
5. Mike Foltynewicz, RHP
6. Ariel Ovando, OF
7. Jonathan Villar, SS
8. Jimmy Paredes, 2B
9. Tannuer Bushue, RHP
10. J.D. Martinez, OF
Both Castro and Wallace struggled mightily in the big leagues, but both
should develop into fringe-average regulars. An average catcher is worth far
more than an average first baseman, thus the rankings. The fact that these
are the only two big-league players on the rankings speaks volumes about what
a mess the organization has become.
Summary: A combination of bad contracts, little young talent, and a poor
minor-league system leaves the Astros with a big hole to dig out of. They're
getting better slowly, but a return to contention is still years away, and
anything but guaranteed.
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1F:推 poplin:Mier也跌太惨了... 12/15 00:45
2F:→ Herlin:看到Delino DeShields 这名字 我下意识的就想如果以後把他 12/15 01:29
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6F:推 testu:球队本身就... 会不会卖不掉? 12/15 02:12
7F:推 poplin:就算卖掉 那个买家八成也是脑袋不太好的那种... 12/15 09:47
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