作者fourinrainie (kg)
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标题[情报] 枪枪是瓜弟奥拉的first priority
时间Wed Dec 12 23:04:09 2012
http://ppt.cc/cj7f
翻译这篇前还是要大喊 "KEEP THE FAITH IN WENGER"
Arsenal on top of Guardiola′s wishlist
12 December 2012
Pep Guardiola has told Arsenal that they are top of his Premier League
wishlist, according to reports.
According to Goal.com, representatives of the former Barcelona manager have
let it be known to the north London club that he would be very keen to be
considered for the manager's job if it was to become available next year.
瓜帅称枪枪 为他明年可能执教英超的第一志愿
消息来源自Goal.com
Guardiola, who is on a year's sabbatical in New York, is in the frame for
leading posts in England, as well as Continental giants like AC Milan, Inter
Milan, Bayern Munich and Paris Saint-Germain.
瓜帅是多家豪门追逐的对象
(最近AW揪甘心的谢绝了PSG...并用了I HAVE TO FIX MY OWN HOUSE这样的字眼,
重新装潢是要砸大钱的啊,Arsene)
Sources have told the football website that Guardiola's Premier League
preference is to take the reins at Arsenal, ahead of Chelsea, Manchester City
and Manchester United.
The Spaniard, who guided Barcelona to 14 trophies including two Champions
League crowns and three La Liga titles during a dazzlingly successful
four-year tenure, is expected to begin sifting through offers early in 2013.
瓜地带领宇宙队拿到很多冠军...
Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger is under more pressure than at any point since
taking over in October 1996.
The club are within two points of fourth place in the Premier League but have
not won a trophy for seven years and one of their best chances of ending that
run ended with the catastrophic League Cup defeat to League Two minnows
Bradford City on Tuesday night.
AW面临1996年接手枪手以来最大危机 虽然两分落後於第四
但已经七年无冠 并且刚在联赛杯被淘汰
"Guardiola's preference in England is Arsenal," a source told Goal.com. "The
club are aware he would be interested in the job in 2013.
"Guardiola doesn't want to go to Chelsea. He is worried about the lack of
stability. He also has a good relationship with Wenger dating back to when he
started doing his coaching badges at Arsenal."
Chelsea owner Roman Abramovich has sounded out the 41-year-old on a number of
occasions but Guardiola has strong reservations about taking a job where the
manager's position is so insecure.
瓜地认为明年夏天有机会入主阿森纳
他并不想去切尔西 因为阿布翻脸跟翻书一样快
Ex-Barcelona chiefs Ferran Soriano and Txiki Begiristain are on the board at
Manchester City, where Roberto Mancini's position is in doubt in the medium
and long-term, while Sir Alex Ferguson turns 71 on December 31 and has
already begun considering his legacy at Manchester United.
Of the English elite who could be searching for a new manager, Arsenal have
the history, prestige and stability that only United can beat and there is a
strong possibility that Wenger's reign could come to an end next summer.
The Frenchman has put contract talks on the backburner until the end of the
season.
The manager's current deal runs until June 2014 and Wenger has been
informally approached by the board to arrange a time to open discussions over
a new deal.
But it is understood that Wenger has no intention of discussing an extension
during the season and that he will assess his future at the end of the
current campaign.
"There will be no talks before then," the source added.
AW 的合约2014到期 并已经被球团通知要开始讨论合约 但AW希望赛季後再谈判
It is expected that the tipping point in the decision of the most successful
manager in Arsenal's history will be whether he records a 17th consecutive
top-four finish.
This fits in with the Frenchman's own public comments in the wake of the
recent 2-0 defeat against Swansea, which prompted the Frenchman to turn his
anger on his own players.
在主场2:0败给鹅後 所有人开始担心阿森纳历史上最成功的教练是否能持续他的纪录
连17个球季闯入欧冠并保住他的饭碗
Wenger stuck to his oft-stated line of honouring his contracts, while at the
same time reiterating his confidence about his ability to drive the club
forward.
"If you ask me always about my future, I can only give you one answer," he
said. "I always respected my contracts, and that is it."
AW对於他的未来只有老话一句: "我尊重我的合约"
The Arsenal board, led by majority owner Stan Kroenke and chief executive
Ivan Gazidis, retain complete faith in Wenger and put far greater store in
his record of top-four finishes and success in navigating the group stages of
the Champions League than current form.
If Arsenal fail to attain a Champions League place this season, there is a
strong possibility that Wenger will conclude he has failed to achieve his
primary objective and agree an amicable exit strategy with the club.
若枪手本季闯关失败的话 教授很有可能会引咎离开
(代表球队财政紧缩下的失败,个人认为是非战之罪,但以本季到目前球队表现,
连年卖队长的舆论压力,布阵与用人的选择匪夷所思,矛头直指教练团)
Such is Wenger's elevated status at Emirates Stadium that he has a far
greater say in his destiny than any English-based boss, bar perhaps Ferguson.
Wenger is also expected to have a considerable say in who his successor will
be.
The two men the Frenchman is most likely to recommend are believed to be
Guardiola and Dragan Stojkovic.
The former Yugoslavia captain played for Wenger when he was in charge at
Nagoya Grampus Eight in the mid-1990s and has followed in his mentor's shoes
by managing the Japanese club since 2008.
In an interview last year, Wenger said: "I would love Stojkovic to be my
successor, there are a hundred reasons for that.
教授也点名了後继者 瓜帅外还包含在日本名古屋的子弟兵Dragan Stojkovic
"Our ideas are the same and we both strive for perfect football. I knew he
was going to have teams playing attacking football with many passes."Arsenal on top of Guardiola′s wishlist
12 December 2012
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1F:推 trilvie:如果教授真的去PSG或皇马 我希望他拿冠军 12/12 23:24
2F:推 COCOSEL:尊重教授的决定,希望高层用钞票强力慰留 12/13 00:00
3F:→ TheoEpstein:我喜欢Stojkovic 12/13 00:19
4F:推 sagax:无法接受瓜地 12/13 01:07
5F:推 Bluetyreal:请瓜帅?有钱吗?有人吗?有野心吗? 如果有的话 那温格怎 12/13 01:16
6F:→ Bluetyreal:麽会有这样的下场... 换个投资者还比较差不多.... 12/13 01:17
7F:推 bigDwinsch:Stojakovic不是前国王三分射手(逃~~) 12/13 02:39
8F:推 trilvie:其实我冬转最想引进的是乌胖 比阿布还有钱的枪手股东 XD 12/13 03:07
9F:推 airways:安胖在PSG不是混的不错吗? 12/13 03:08
10F:推 Ginola:安胖评价差了,他的打法糟蹋了几个好手的身手 12/13 03:53
11F:推 ScotDaBig:瓜帅或许只是单纯地想挑战极限吧?用有限的资源拿冠军来 12/13 07:14
12F:→ ScotDaBig:证明自己的执教能力。 12/13 07:14
13F:推 Mauvaiskw:根本没必要换帅吧...补人比较重要= = 12/13 10:19
14F:→ shuhei7812:同意楼上 12/13 11:17
15F:推 groupieken:可以挑教授调度毛病,可是追根究底还不是因为手上就那 12/13 11:21
16F:→ groupieken:几张牌,捕人卡实在啦! 12/13 11:21
17F:推 Habai:手上就那几张牌 可是总把梅花三当大老二打 QK又不出 12/13 11:31
18F:→ Mauvaiskw:这季主力很棒 可是没时间休息下半季更恐怖吧.. 12/13 11:43
19F:推 t0126x:这季轮换跟调度很怪~不该拉边的拉边 应该上场的不在板凳上 12/13 12:39
20F:推 peiswu:我觉得手上这几张牌当然不算顶极 可是已经算是很不错的阵容 12/13 13:36
21F:→ peiswu:比天鹅海好 比农庄好 更比Bradford好 问题是都踢不到该有的 12/13 13:38
22F:→ peiswu:水准 才会输(平)上面这些队伍 这才是令人匪夷所思的 到底问 12/13 13:38
23F:→ peiswu:题出在哪? 我只能说我觉得除了某几位外 我看不到这批球员的 12/13 13:39
24F:→ peiswu:斗志跟热情...如果是球员没劲那的确是教练团的问题 12/13 13:40
25F:推 trilvie:爷那里湿的推特:Hard work beats talent when talent 12/13 14:17
26F:→ trilvie:fails to work hard!! 真敢讲 XD 被转推三千多次 12/13 14:18
27F:推 tanztu:爷那里湿屎定了 准备被冰吧 12/13 16:09
28F:→ tanztu:感觉温格很讨厌说太多的球员 12/13 16:10
29F:推 ScotDaBig:这准备上英伦各大报体育版头版头了XDD 12/13 16:19
30F:推 trilvie:没指名道姓应该还好吧 而且这也是忠言逆耳 ~"~ 12/13 16:38
31F:推 dreamender:虽然忠言逆耳,但是不可质疑你的____ 12/13 17:01
32F:推 kevinsyc: 威胁 12/13 17:18
33F:推 Nvboy:偏偏补人..手上的牌少,也是教授自己的问题,这就是袒护他但 12/13 17:42
34F:→ Nvboy:同时也必需苛责他的地方..在怎样缺钱卖主力,最後也都卖了, 12/13 17:43
35F:→ Nvboy:最後还是把这笔钱放银行..教授怎麽可能会没有责任。如果董事 12/13 17:44
36F:→ Nvboy:会有问题,教授也必须反应回去,但两边始终处在和谐状态下, 12/13 17:46
37F:→ Nvboy:搞到球队停滞不前,难说教授跟董事会跟本是同立场,我不希望 12/13 17:48
38F:→ Nvboy:如此,但就怕有这可能,球队人员运作只有教授说了算,这句话 12/13 17:51
39F:→ Nvboy:是教授当出自己挂保证的,否则他早就离队。 12/13 17:52
41F:推 trilvie:看新闻说教授都是不主张卖人的 的确没有教练会希望让自己 12/13 18:59
42F:→ trilvie:培养的人才走啊 但教授对外是口不出恶言的人 所以真相如何 12/13 19:00
43F:→ trilvie:实在雾里看花 12/13 19:00
44F:→ Nvboy:只有RVP跟Walcott教授是不想卖的,Nasri之前的都是他同意卖 12/13 19:30
45F:→ Nvboy:掉的,至於教授想不想卖跟本不是重点,重点是主力们个个求去 12/13 19:31
46F:→ Nvboy:是不争的事实,教授以前阵容佳有底气,只要Cesc不走、RVP不 12/13 19:32
47F:→ Nvboy:走,核心不走,其他的想走管你甚麽天气冷冰淇淋还是薪情不佳 12/13 19:33
48F:→ Nvboy:,反正好取代,球队实力不会有大幅下滑,好补足。但现在却对 12/13 19:35
49F:→ Nvboy:RVP、Walcott改变态度,因为这支枪手已经不是那支可靠的枪手 12/13 19:36
50F:→ Nvboy:他必须拼死拼活去留这些还能挽回球队一点遮羞布的球员,只是 12/13 19:37
51F:→ Nvboy:木已成舟,失去了吸引力跟谈判筹码,而他也不会是那一种会跟 12/13 19:41
52F:→ Nvboy:球员反目,放你在预备队烂的个性,也从来都不会,这些种种都 12/13 19:42
53F:→ Nvboy:是这几年来给人感觉一直非常挣扎的教授,他的临场表情态度动 12/13 19:44
54F:→ Nvboy:作肢体语言在在都显示这一切 12/13 19:44
55F:推 lkpapaya:还是希望教授可以留下来把房子修好 这几年阵容一直不稳定 12/13 20:05
56F:→ lkpapaya:跟球队战绩下滑应该也有很大关系 12/13 20:06
57F:→ fourinrainie:Ramsey, Arshavin, Gervinho, Chamach教练真的要负起 12/13 20:18
58F:→ fourinrainie:很大的责任 他们是好球员 不应该被教授牺牲掉才华 12/13 20:19
59F:→ fourinrainie:教练不教战术 法布有提过 但并不是每个人都像亨利有 12/13 20:24
60F:→ fourinrainie:天分 能够凭藉对足球的理解 进而得到提升 甚至需要 12/13 20:25
61F:→ fourinrainie:更多的上场时间来教学费 这些其实训练时就该教给球员 12/13 20:26
62F:推 tliu223:战绩不好,教练就该承受质疑,不管他过去有多么辉煌 12/13 21:41
63F:推 tanztu:教练团问题很刺激阿...温格若真的只要yes man,那真的不会有 12/13 23:19
64F:→ tanztu:进步 12/13 23:19
65F:→ tanztu:到底是不是温格这几年的成就让他变得故步自封(假设新闻属实 12/13 23:20
67F:推 ScotDaBig:1/2 L'Equipe, today, bottom of page 13: T.Henry 12/14 00:30
68F:→ ScotDaBig:spotted having dinner in Alisher Usmanov's home on 12/14 00:31
69F:→ ScotDaBig:Monday night in Moscow. 12/14 00:31
70F:→ ScotDaBig:2/2 Usmanov: "Henry should already be a member of 12/14 00:32
71F:→ ScotDaBig:the club, but not as a player. He's got another, 12/14 00:32
72F:→ ScotDaBig:more important role to play". 12/14 00:32
73F:→ ScotDaBig:by @PhilippeAuclair RT by @arseblog 12/14 00:33
74F:推 ScotDaBig:邬马先生要出手了吗? 亨利会单骑弑旧主吗? 我们看下去 12/14 00:36
75F:推 groupieken:我想看小法说教授不教战术的新闻,关於教练组问题也不 12/14 08:54
76F:→ groupieken:是媒体捕风捉影你就要信,我早上还看到卡索拉、波多司 12/14 08:55
77F:→ groupieken:机也开始质疑教练战术问题,我就更别说媒体都帮我们买 12/14 08:57
78F:→ groupieken:了几个球员了 12/14 08:57
79F:推 Nvboy:小法不是说不教战术,他是说教授是那种只针对自己特长要求完 12/15 11:03
80F:→ Nvboy:善的人,球队只需对自己的训练项目跟特点精益求精,着重在自 12/15 11:05
81F:→ Nvboy:身更多,但比较少针对对手的打法做研究,但是在巴萨经常 12/15 11:06
82F:→ Nvboy:,赛前准备各队不同而已。其实这点教授很言谈中也看的出来, 12/15 11:10
83F:→ Nvboy:他强调球员的自信跟自我信念、重视心理学,要相信自己的打法 12/15 11:11
84F:→ Nvboy:这些话他基本上说过不下千百次,但也是因为这样球队缺乏引援 12/15 11:12
85F:→ Nvboy:场面未见起色,渐渐的这些谈话开始被部分球迷认为是陈腔滥调 12/15 11:13
87F:→ Nvboy:是一样,某些内容已经看了大概3万多次。另外阿比将会缺席到 12/15 11:36
88F:→ Nvboy:2067年 12/15 11:38
89F:推 overall:用D2取代Song的豪赌可谓满盘皆输 12/15 12:33
90F:推 ScotDaBig:2067XDD 部长也怒了! 12/15 13:19
91F:推 olddadwind:会不会直接宣布挂靴了啊 12/15 13:21
92F:嘘 lkpapaya:2067会开发出医好阿比的治疗法吧 希望如此~ 12/15 14:02
93F:→ lkpapaya:按到嘘了 对不起 待会补回来 12/15 14:04
94F:推 lkpapaya:不知道球团会不会放弃阿比 花朵也是受伤就被卖走了 12/15 14:16
97F:推 trilvie:2067年 还用医吗 直接上复制人一号二号三号了啦 12/15 16:45
98F:→ t0126x:D2实在是可惜阿~ 12/15 21:27
99F:→ nuturewind:如果瓜弟来我们这边接教授班感觉还蛮刚好的 12/15 23:12
100F:推 shevchenco:窃以为哇靠拿10万真的有点夸张,我总有个错觉,他是所有 12/16 10:33
101F:→ shevchenco:要求涨薪水否则离去的球员中,近年来兵工厂作用最小的 12/16 10:34
102F:→ tonyselina:是喔? 十万买他这种球员在这种年资一点都不过分 12/16 11:09
103F:→ tonyselina:七万五是很搞笑的数字,别闹了。 12/16 11:09
104F:→ tonyselina:枪手一堆年资错乱的又不是他。 12/16 11:10
105F:→ Nvboy:富爸爸球队队内顶薪都在10万以上,甚至有20万周薪的,但在枪 12/16 11:43
106F:→ Nvboy:手薪资结构,顶薪最高也才9万到10万周薪,印象中只有大帝在 12/16 11:45
107F:→ Nvboy:欧冠亚军那年续约有超过10万的周薪,因为他已经是俱乐部传奇 12/16 11:45
108F:→ Nvboy:而上面两位也已经是队内的头牌跟招牌,加上实力(重点)跟年资 12/16 11:47
109F:→ Nvboy:(没实力年资只是枉然),所以以挖靠的实力,他在枪手领七万五 12/16 11:48
110F:→ Nvboy:我真得觉得已经很看的起他(薪资结构更高的球队另当别论) 12/16 11:49
111F:→ Nvboy:漏打,上面两位是指前两任队长 12/16 11:51
112F:→ Nvboy:他们两位也是在枪手後期逐渐达到个人(在枪手的)巅峰,才有办 12/16 11:53
113F:→ Nvboy:法领到队内顶薪,没人会说话,但挖靠就是能力和薪资不成正比 12/16 11:57
114F:推 tanztu:poldi周薪没记错的话,10万多一点(英镑) 前阵子看到的 12/16 11:58
115F:→ Nvboy:可能吧我不确定,各媒体有时给的数字都不太一样(同转会费), 12/16 12:07
116F:→ Nvboy:他27岁,国家队出场数是哇靠的三倍还多一点,队内现在能拿的 12/16 12:10
117F:→ Nvboy:出名字的世界级球员也就Cazorla跟他 12/16 12:13
118F:推 tonyselina:你知道何谓年资跟英国兰本土球员吗? 还有货币通膨..... 12/16 14:14
119F:→ tonyselina:十万在枪手封顶也是过去式了 12/16 14:15
120F:→ tonyselina: 英格兰 12/16 14:15
122F:→ raki:也许薪资不一定完全正确 但也差不了多少, 枪手的薪资结构本来 12/16 15:17
123F:→ raki:就高, 一堆板凳薪水小偷, 钱都花在不应该的球员身上, 该留的 12/16 15:18
124F:→ raki:不留, 我宁可看预备队上来一两个打先发 把那些省下的钱投资 12/16 15:21
125F:→ raki:在 真正能决定比赛胜负的人上 12/16 15:21
126F:→ raki:所以 德神之前没人愿意租很正常 枪手挖了这麽大的坑还想租出 12/16 15:23
127F:→ raki:去, 其他球队也不是白痴.. 12/16 15:23
128F:推 raki:每次看到 Arshavin Walcott Santos Chamakh Diaby 被摆板凳 12/16 15:31
129F:→ raki:就有一种Arsenal 真的是豪门的Feel..........,,XD... 12/16 15:33
130F:→ Nvboy:十万在枪手封顶我是不知道,因为没任何俱乐部人员准确公开说 12/16 16:51
131F:→ Nvboy:过,我知道的就是薪资结构分配不合理同上所述之事。另外年资 12/16 16:52
132F:→ Nvboy:是建立在能力上的,而通膨跟英格兰球员身价虚高这件事我也知 12/16 16:53
133F:→ Nvboy:道,还有转会市场货币通膨,但教授根本不吃这一套,转会上走 12/16 16:57
134F:→ Nvboy:的还是大部分球队运作的正常价格,而不是那些财政雄厚球队所 12/16 16:58
135F:→ Nvboy:建立的另一套转会市场。 12/16 16:59
136F:推 jehannn:看看队内薪资结构, 他要求10万真的太高了 12/16 19:39
137F:推 shevchenco:我只是觉得,比照过去的几季,哇靠跟其他要求顶薪者真的 12/17 01:16
138F:→ shevchenco:有差.至於那些高薪低效,以及枪手是否应该全面提升薪资, 12/17 01:16
139F:→ shevchenco:这个就是结构性问题了,或许枪手也的确需要革命? 12/17 01:17
140F:推 Highflying:没办法啊 你不理另一套转会市场 就别想争冠 12/18 16:23
141F:→ Highflying:面对通膨,球队只有两个选项:砸钱冲冠军或是省钱保四 12/18 16:24
142F:推 tonyselina:枪手这十年来,顶薪大概是8->13,挖靠要求10万我看不 12/18 17:24
143F:→ tonyselina:出问题在哪。 这部是什麽枪手没富爸爸或石油王的问题 12/18 17:25
144F:→ tonyselina:所以也看不太懂版友在不爽什麽? 12/18 17:26
145F:推 tonyselina:还有枪手只是省转队会费,薪资结构并不是什麽表率 12/18 17:31
146F:→ Nvboy:问题是没人在不爽阿...只是在表达现有薪资结构下,哇靠能力 12/18 22:46
147F:→ Nvboy:成熟度跟年龄上,大概就只能队上中上一点的水准,哪天如果薪 12/18 22:48
148F:→ Nvboy:资结构如果可以提升,当然也希望他签高薪,就事论事而已,至 12/18 22:50
149F:→ Nvboy:於怎麽提升要不要提升,那是我们能不能创造更多收入的问题, 12/18 22:52
150F:→ Nvboy:,有没有能力负担的问题,板凳小偷跟外租的清一清或许有机会 12/18 22:54
152F:→ chair209:能力不够是真的阿,Nasri要拿11万拿不到,被卖了24M 12/20 14:27
153F:→ chair209:小老虎能不能卖到这个数字还很拚 12/20 14:32
154F:→ tonyselina:纳斯李是进来多久+哪年? 你不要开玩笑 12/20 16:51
155F:→ tonyselina:拿周薪跟转队费比? 不伦不类 12/20 16:51
156F:→ tonyselina:我口气好像不太好,不过感觉很多人好像把拿周薪 12/20 16:52
157F:→ tonyselina:跟当下表现划上等号,没有一个运动是如此看得 12/20 16:53
158F:→ chair209:没有人划等号,只是认为相关性大而已 12/22 18:29
159F:→ chair209:你觉得如果林书豪没疯几场,拿的到3年25M美元的合约? 12/22 18:30
160F:推 tonyselina:你还是看不懂 12/22 21:18
161F:→ chair209:就小老虎周薪部分,我看法就跟部长一样。两位前队长能拿 12/23 01:13
162F:→ chair209:顶薪是靠年资+世界级球员;小老虎年资够了、但肯定没有世 12/23 01:15
163F:→ chair209:界级,所以不给顶薪也很合理。况且单靠年资就给到顶薪 12/23 01:16
164F:→ chair209:对球队也不是一件好事。 12/23 01:17
165F:推 tonyselina:就跟你讲10万不是顶薪了....... 12/23 09:17
166F:→ tonyselina:谁跟你讲了是靠年资领顶薪? 一堆转会来的几乎都领 12/23 09:18
167F:→ tonyselina:本队顶薪或是接近的价码。 枪手是很多薪水小偷 12/23 09:19
168F:→ tonyselina:但是那些薪水小偷几乎都是温格早早慧眼识英雄不肯放的 12/23 09:20
169F:推 chair209:我看上面板友的连结,也只有波弟是破十万,M4八万、三弟 12/23 12:39
170F:→ chair209:七万、特师父七万,吉鲁、牛六万。这几个近两年转进来的 12/23 12:42
171F:→ chair209:六万这个级距先不管,其他人年龄都是球员的黄金时期,拿 12/23 12:52
172F:→ chair209:这样的薪水我觉得不为过。再来看哇靠,现在23岁,如果给 12/23 12:54
173F:→ chair209:了十万,三年後如果能长到世界级,那薪水势必要再往上 12/23 12:59
174F:→ chair209:我们是否负担的起? 如果长不到、球队要卖人,十万周薪对 12/23 13:00
175F:→ chair209:有兴趣的球队肯定是一个考量因素,除非又要卖油王 12/23 13:01
176F:→ tonyselina:这时候又忘记年资了..........你真天才 12/23 15:26
177F:→ tonyselina:再来你也不知道这几年顶薪一直在往上加吗? 12/23 15:27
178F:→ tonyselina:球员薪资本来就会经历农作物领基本薪超CP,到後来 12/23 15:29
179F:→ tonyselina:overpaid的状态。 现在签十万还是赚到(有看比赛就知道 12/23 15:30
180F:→ tonyselina:枪迷欢呼声中,基本上挖靠被当成hometown hero) 12/23 15:31
181F:→ tonyselina:卖球衣等一堆授权,十万绝对不是什麽问题点。 12/23 15:32