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标题[评论] 转会传闻:Gervinho, Foster, Samba, Parker
时间Sat May 21 11:11:06 2011
Transfer Rumour Review: Gervinho, Foster, Samba, Parker
by Red Detective
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Welcome to RedDetective’s brand-new Transfer Rumour Review column.
欢迎来到 RedDetective 的转会传闻专栏
The weekly feature promises to look at a handful of players linked with
Arsenal in the past seven days, giving you the chance to have your say on
which star you would like to see in a Gunners shirt.
每周会固定检视过去七天内传闻会加入 Arsenal 的球员八卦,让你也能一同发表自己的
观点,来说说你认为哪些球星会穿上枪手的球衣。
Feel free to leave your transfer rumour views in the comments section below.
欢迎留下你对转会得看法。
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Gervinho (23, Forward, Lille):
(23岁,前锋,法甲Lille)
Don’t be fooled by the name he isn’t Brazilian, he’s from the Ivory Coast.
His real name is Gervais Yao Kouassi and he has exceptional ability. In fact
Gervinho’s dribbling skill and step-over’s earned him the nickname. Like
the current crop of Ivory Coast forward’s he has pace, skill and a wiry
strong frame. A key asset that will ultimately earn him a move to a big club
is his versatility. He also is in the same position that Ashley Young and
Samir Nasri are, he has just a year left on his contract so this would be an
affordable transfer.
别被他的名字而误以为他是巴西球员,实际上他是象牙海岸籍的球员。全名为 Gervais
Yao Kouassi 且有着杰出的能力。事实上,Gervinho 因盘球技术和跨步过人而得名。就
如当前象牙海岸国家队的前锋球员们,他有着速度、技术、以及强壮的体格。之所以有机
会转向大型球会的关键在於他的多样性。同时也能踢像 Ashley Young 和 Nasri 所在的
阵容位置,目前还剩下一年的合同,所以这应为价格上可以接受的转会对象。
From a tactical perspective, I regard Gervinho as a combination of Arshavin’
s skill and Walcott’s power, although probably lacking the top class potency
of both. Rumours say the Ivory Coast international will only sign for a team
playing Champions League football, which would rule Spurs out of the running
and push Arsenal straight into it. I see this one probably happening, if a
certain diminutive Russian moves on since Gervinho is capable of playing on
the wing.
从战术的观点来看,我认为 Gervinho 有着 Arshavin 技术 & Walcott 冲击力之两者的
综合,虽然不比他们两人在足球界的影响力。传闻指出这名象牙海岸籍球员只愿加入能踢
欧冠的球队,因此 Spurs 确定出局而 Arsenal 机会大增。我认为这笔交易可能发生,但
前提是离去机会极微的俄罗斯人 Arshavin 真的离开且 Gervinho 取代了他来踢边锋位置
Ben Foster (28, Goalkeeper, Birmingham):
(28岁,门将,英超 Birmingham)
Ben Foster is not coming to Arsenal. He could not hack England set up and did
not excel at Manchester United either. Why on earth would a 28 year old
decide to withdraw from England? To prolong a club career, he says. I think
the truth is he knows he is probably third choice at best, lacks the talent
to displace Hart and is intimidated by big personalities with bigger salaries
(I do not do fence-sitting when I can help it).
Ben Foster 不会来 Arsenal。既进不了英格兰国家队的球员名单,也无法胜任曾在
ManUtd 的表现。为何这世上会有正值28岁的球员,毅然决定退出英格兰国家队呢?根据
他的说法是为了延长在俱乐部的表现。我认为事实是,他深知自己最好也只能在第三门将
的位置,既没有 Hart 的天份,也胆怯拿高薪所需要的优异表现。(如果我能做的话,我
是不会犹豫不决的。)
Szczesny in comparison may well make just as many maybe more errors between
now and his maturity in two or so years, but has a personality that dusts
himself off. I consider Foster too much of a nice guy, easily bruised and
hurt by criticism. He is looked after at Birmingham and should stay and
become a club legend there. Foster, in conclusion, is a likeable professional
and in my view a better player than Fabianski but were I him, I would not
think coming to Arsenal with no guarantee of being first choice a great
career move. Not going to happen.
相较之下,Szczesny 就有较多的容错机会,且有两年之多的机会让他成长,但却有着门
将特质让他不必去担心这些。我认为 Foster 像个太过拘谨的乖乖牌,容易被一点点的批
评就内心受创。在 Birmingham 他备受关照,也会留下来并成为球队的传奇。总的来说,
Foster 是个讨喜的职业球员,甚至在我来看是个比 Fabianski 好一些的球员,但我若是
他的话,我不会做出加入 Arsenal 这样受重视的职涯转换又没有第一门将的保障。所以
,啥也不会发生。
Christopher Samba (27, Defender, Blackburn):
(27岁,後卫,英超 Blackburn)
I used to have a controversial opinion that I would be too afraid to have
voiced on Twitter for fear of being shot down in flames. I suspected at one
time that Wenger detested the football being played by teams such as Stoke
and Birmingham to the extent that he, in the privacy of his own home, would
refuse to watch their football. I thought for this reason he had no
appreciation for the value of the players and would not ever consider signing
a player like Samba. I changed my mind when I heard Arsenal tried to buy Phil
Jones, the more talented of the two centre backs at Blackburn. I consider
Samba to be a player who plays the kind of football that Arsenal are
incapable of playing. A rugged, efficient and physical game far removed from
all things Wenger. Now it appears the rumours are Arsenal are considering a
bid. I find this hard to believe. Why allow him to sign a new deal at Rovers,
which will only serve to increase his value? Wenger could have moved to buy
him in January as well.
我过去有着争议性的想法,使得我不敢在 Twitter 发声免得被责备的声浪给击沉。我曾
有过怀疑,认为 教授 讨厌像 Stoke 和 Birmingham 在足球风格上的表现,就算在主场
之际也不会去看他们的表现如何(而调整战术)。我会这麽想是因为 教授 从未欣赏这些
球员们的价值所在,甚至也没有去考虑签下像 Samba 这样的球员。我之所以会改观,是
当我得知 Arsenal 曾试着去签下 Phil Hones,这名在 Blackburn 的中後卫里较为突出
的球员。我认为 Samba 能负责 Arsenal 过去所不能应付的踢球风格。利用硬碰硬、有效
率、并善用体格优势的比赛风格,是不存在於 教授 的执教风格里。现在传出 Arsenal
有意出价买他。我不太相信这传闻。为何让他留在 Rover 签下新合同而让他身价高涨?
教授 本该在一月的时候就买下他了!
I like Samba, and I think certain proponents of this type of signing have a
good argument. He is big, maybe even if he were an amateur Rugby player, and
would relish leading a backline at Arsenal seriously lacking in the bicep
department. However, I do not see this transfer happening on two grounds.
One; Blackburn have a lot of money and he now has a long contract. No reason
to sell. Two; I have concerns about his distribution. He is not a natural
passer from the back in the vein of Rio Ferdinand, Johann Djourou or
Koscielny. The problem when you have one talented passer at centre back and
another who is less capable is that attacker’s on the opposite team target
the stronger player in possession to force him to give the ball to the weaker
one. Leaving the weaker passer in possession with a high line forces that
same player to hit a long ball, and in most cases in Arsenal’s case, this
results in loss of the ball. One can easily see this formula taking place at
Arsenal were this signing made. During the late 1990’s Chelsea had a slim,
skilled passer of the ball called Frank Lebouef. Flawless in possession, he
was harried on the ball he passed to his muscular partner at centre-back –
Michael Duberry. Duberry would then receive the ball and hit it forward with
little accuracy resulting in loss of possession. Therefore, for reasons
mentioned I view the Samba signing as an unlikely one, and probably a player
worth avoiding.
我欣赏 Samba,我也认为希望签下他的拥护者会有更好的观点。他身材高大,或许他还曾
经是个橄榄球员,多少能缓解 Arsenal 後防缺少强壮二头肌的危机。但我仍认为有两个
原因使得这转会不会实现:第一、Blackburn 有着丰厚的资金且他也签下了新的长期合同
。没理由会卖掉他。第二、我关注过他的表现。他不像 Rio Ferdinand、Johann Djourou
、或 Koscielny 这类的後卫有着绝佳的传球力。问题是当你有着传球力绝佳、另一名稍
弱的後卫群在防线上,敌队的进攻球员就会去迫使较强壮的持球後卫传给体格较弱的後卫
。而被逼上火线、体格较弱的持球後卫不得不赶紧长传,就如 Arsenal 经常发生的典型
案例,最後会送出持球权。我们可以想见,若是签下这样的球员,Arsenal 的阵容就可能
会发生这惨案。在90'年代晚期,Chelsea 有着瘦小、传球精湛的 Frank Lebouef。有着
完美的控球,当他急於传球给同是中後卫、体格强壮的同伴-Michael Duberry。
Deburry 接到球通常就以精准度低的前传导致送出对方持球权。因此由上述观点来看,
Samba 是不可能加盟的,甚至最好避免使用。
Scott Parker (30, Midfielder, West Ham):
(30岁,中场球员,英超 West Ham)
I like him, and he might just be the poll winner if you asked every Arsenal
fan who they would want of all the players currently being linked with the
club. He is not a marquee, high value, shirt seller of a signing but
undoubtedly would bring a forcefulness of character. Having played alongside
John Terry and Alan Shearer, I have no doubt that Parker has learned and
studied the leader he wanted to become. Parker is an immense character, a
genuine man that stood up when the players in the team he is still contracted
to – a decent squad – forgot they were professionals and lost their
confidence.
我欣赏他,若你问大部分的枪迷你希望传闻的哪位加盟,Scott Parker 可能会是第一名
。没有瞩目的名气、高不可攀的价位、或是引进後成为球衣卖最好的球员,但无疑会带来
勇者无惧的精神特质。曾和 John Terry 以及 Alan Shearer 共事,我相信 Parker 有从
中学到成为球队领导人的诀窍。Parker 有着广大的影响力,是个名符其实的球员,只要
站在场上就会尽力成为像样的球员,而不会去在意队里同伴是职业球员或士气下降。
Alongside Jack Wilshere he can play in front of Arsenal’s back four and
replace Alex Song as first choice. Song gives away stupid fouls, and whilst
he might have improved tremendously, he strikes me as a pedestrian paced and
lazy character. Give Parker a contract and chance to do his UEFA coaching
badges when he wants to. The player that Parker most reminds me of is not a
midfielder but Carlos Puyol. At the minimum you are signing someone who lives
properly, refuses to give up and demands total effort.
加上 Jack Wilshere 能负责四名後卫前的防守中场以及取代 Alex Song 成为第一顺位。
Song 有时会犯下愚蠢的犯规,即使他能改善得很好,他仍让我觉得像是个有慵懒路人般
的速度以及懒散的特质。给 Parker 一份合同,也给他机会去考取 UEFA 执教的徽章。像
Parker 这样的球员让我印象最深刻的是,他不像是个中场球员,却像是 Barca 的
Carlos Puyol。若要签下其他球员,至少要有像他有稳定的出场、不放弃、全力以赴的精
神才可。
Unfortunately, recent information from Daily Mirror journalist John Cross
would indicate Wenger has doubts about him and he is destined for Tottenham.
In all likelihood Wenger does not want to add to his squad a player on the
wrong side of 30 years old who would want a 3 year deal. This deal is
unlikely to happen based on the rumours doing the rounds right now.
不幸的是,最近《镜报》专栏记者 John Cross 指出教授质疑他的能力,且他最终有可能
加入 Tottenham。最主要的原因应是 教授 不想使用30岁的球员在错误的阵容位置上,且
又要求三年合同。
这笔交易也看来不可能成真,正是因为这个传闻又回到了原点。
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看完以後,3个不可能 + 1个机会也很低 ≒ 4 个都不可能
谢谢收看。(下台一鞠躬 Orz
Goal! Goal! Arsenal!
We r the Champions !
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1F:推 Ginola:Gervinho 脑子不够好,今年放过几枪你会想死的,位置又尴尬 05/21 11:15
2F:推 wing2000:第1个便宜就先签,大本随时走人 05/21 11:28
3F:→ wing2000:Parker三年就三年麻,球队需要精神人物在场上增加士气 05/21 11:30
4F:→ wing2000:自从大叔走後,我们临场表现总是欠缺心理质素,领先时容易 05/21 11:32
5F:→ wing2000:恍神,落後时容易紧张,场面稳不下来 05/21 11:33
6F:推 AaronRamsey:签人了?? Ricky Alvarez?? 05/21 11:55
7F:→ briankch: (23) 05/21 13:06
8F:→ Nvboy:後两个可以考虑,或是Cahill,签Gervinho不如签Hazard,反正 05/21 13:26
9F:→ Nvboy:正都要清人,加上这几年没花得,就买最好,下季有非洲杯,谢 05/21 13:29
10F:→ Nvboy:绝任何非洲球员。最好多签一点英格兰本土 05/21 13:34
11F:推 satousei:可是Hazard没体力 一周双战保证软脚 05/22 07:24
12F:推 emerald2124:看了Hazard的影片好喜欢!!! 05/22 11:30
13F:推 Nvboy:没关系阿,A23差不多,而且也会轮换,这位置人算多 05/22 15:12
14F:→ Nvboy:wilshere好像确定不会踢u21了!!!ya!! 05/22 15:14
15F:推 willkill:好险=.= 不然下季开始状态不知道会怎样... 05/22 15:23
16F:推 lang1025:万岁!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 05/22 17:03
17F:推 Nvboy:Hazard & M'Vila接受RMC访问表示都不会离队。大本他老爸经纪 05/23 19:55
18F:→ Nvboy:人告诉丹麦媒体sporten.dk说大本也已经要求夏天离队。另外 05/23 19:56
19F:→ Nvboy:枪手已开始跟国米就Clichy得转会谈判。最後教授在本周得TF1 05/23 20:00
20F:→ Nvboy:上说这夏天他会积极运作转会。另外补八卦大本一月就已经跟那 05/23 20:01
21F:→ Nvboy:位皇室女友切了,上周球队季末聚会解散时还被拍到新欢 05/23 20:05
22F:→ Nvboy:N8昨天在Canal+也暗示留队,当初加盟就是信任教授跟其计画 05/23 20:40
23F:推 kevinsyc:老实说不希望Clichy走,Gibbs无法取代Clichy的。 05/23 21:35
24F:→ kevinsyc:的确Clichy在关键时刻的失误很要命,但现在後防线唯一的 05/23 21:37
25F:→ kevinsyc:快马就他了(Traore还不知道有没有想回来的意思),如果 05/23 21:38
26F:推 kevinsyc:要放走Clichy,请问是已经看到哪个世界级的後卫且一定网 05/23 21:39
27F:→ kevinsyc:罗的到? 05/23 21:39
28F:→ kevinsyc:财务真这麽健全就给我先买下去然後用了满意再卖不合适的 05/23 21:40
29F:→ kevinsyc:或留着当替补,免得卖了Clichy後又发现没那麽好用又急就 05/23 21:41
30F:→ kevinsyc:章然後整个赛季都在补那个洞。 05/23 21:42
31F:推 kevinsyc:而且Clichy还几乎是铁人,温格请您想清楚Clichy不在的场 05/23 21:50
32F:→ kevinsyc:次球队有多惨,这几年Clichy不在都惨不忍睹阿! 05/23 21:50
33F:推 sam731215:GIBBS我个人认为在左後卫这位子,他连当CLICHY替补都不 05/23 22:19
34F:→ sam731215:格,如果温格放走CLICHY肯定会後悔的。就算买到更优秀的 05/23 22:21
35F:→ sam731215:球员,让CLICHY轮替也比GIBBS来得好 05/23 22:22
36F:推 kevinsyc:没错! 05/23 22:23
37F:推 kevinsyc:对Gibbs的唯一希望就是温格把他改造成边锋吧,他进攻其实 05/23 22:24
38F:→ kevinsyc:还不错,但你要他防守就等於是大喇喇告诉对手攻这吧! 05/23 22:25
39F:推 sam731215:真的,我跟阿橘有同样的想法,GIBBS还是回去老位置比较 05/23 22:26
40F:→ sam731215:实在,他防守意识跟心态真得是烂得可以,这麽喜欢进攻 05/23 22:28
41F:→ sam731215:回去打左边锋比较实在,反正我们也很缺纯边锋 05/23 22:29
42F:推 kevinsyc:Gibbs的进攻站位跟跑动还不错,我想这是温格看上他的一点 05/23 22:30
43F:推 kevinsyc:,另外他一对一的转身其实还ok,但是他补位跟防守的站位 05/23 22:31
44F:→ kevinsyc:与落点的判断实在不大好..我自己觉得他好像有视差一样, 05/23 22:32
45F:→ kevinsyc:判断高空球的解危都会固定差一点。 05/23 22:32
46F:→ kevinsyc:Clichy的问题也许心理医生多建设以及多个好球员轮替也许 05/23 22:33
47F:→ kevinsyc:会改善,不然每次他跟Sagna一直当铁人一缺席球队就被打点 05/23 22:33
48F:→ kevinsyc:,不要因为曼联跟其他豪门对战时都锁定Clichy就卖他,该 05/23 22:34
49F:→ kevinsyc:思考的是怎麽样解决当前问题而不是把问题扩大。 05/23 22:34
50F:推 kevinsyc:(大家都记得4-4阿沙文进四颗,却不记得当天Gibbs被打点) 05/23 22:38
51F:推 sam731215:这也是我很好奇的一点,明明GIBBS从拉上来之後在左後卫 05/23 22:42
52F:→ sam731215:打得可说是毫无亮点,反倒是我记得有一场去客串边锋反倒 05/23 22:43
53F:→ sam731215:打得像个样子,不太懂温格的坚持在哪 05/23 22:44
54F:推 powerdunk:还不就是该位置没有人,所以找个左脚的边锋来交差。 05/23 23:25
55F:推 Habai:其实gibbs 特劳累都有一样问题 防守观念很差 05/24 11:57
56F:推 Habai:可是我们教出来的後卫好像就是这个样子 05/24 11:58