作者Nvboy (没有最好只有更好)
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标题[新闻] 巴萨根本不值得尊敬
时间Wed Oct 17 18:46:40 2007
From Arseblog,写的有点狠,巴萨迷勿见怪。
因为Tkixi Beguiristain 的发言激怒了写者(也可说是全世界的枪迷)。完整中文版请自行
参照对岸的翻译。
http://tinyurl.com/2tteqd
http://bbs.arsenal.com.cn/viewthread.php?tid=119479&extra=page%3D1
by 土卫17
Hello to you. Shall we start with the unbridled arrogance of FC Barcelona?
Yes, we shall.
大家好,今天我们要不要从不可一世的巴塞罗那开始谈起?好主意。
Their ’sporting’ director, Mickey Burgerstain, spoke about Cesc yesterday
to a Spanish newspaper. He seems to be under the impression that because of
the way Cesc left the club when he was 16 that Barcelona would take some kind
of moral stand and not pay a large transfer fee if they were to bring him
back to the club. He said:
" He is a great player but the circumstances of his exit make things very
difficult. We cannot pay a great amount for a homegrown player that decided
to leave us."
巴萨那位所谓的「体育」主管米奇‧贝吉里斯坦,昨天跟一家西班牙报纸谈起了塞斯克。
(
http://tinyurl.com/2jwjva )他心里似乎有这麽一种良好的感觉:塞斯克16岁离开了俱
乐部,因此,巴萨在道义上理所应当有权把他带回来,而且不应该花什麽大钱。他是这麽
说的:
「他是个伟大的球员,但是他走了,把事情搞得很复杂。巴塞罗那培养了他,他却抛弃了
我们。我们不会为这样的球员花一大笔钱的。」
Oh, there I was labouring under the impression that a player’s past and
previous clubs were completely and utterly irrelevant and that it was his
current standing in the game, coupled with the length of his contract, that
would decide his value. Silly me.
噢,他的感觉原来是这样。不过我的感觉正好相反,一个球员和他以前的俱乐部是完完全
全绝对没有任何牵扯的,而且塞斯克的身价要由合同期限来决定,贝吉里斯坦还这麽感觉
良好,简直愚蠢。
Honestly though, what a pack of cunts. Do they really think they’re making
some kind of stand here? Let’s look at the facts. Cesc did not have a
contract with Barcelona. Barcelona were compensated for the loss of Cesc in
both monetary terms (a fee of around £500,000 was paid) and the arrival of a
Dutch international, Giovanni van Bronckhorst, whose transfer fee was set
aside and who went on to give them good service for three seasons. Yet they
think that because Cesc played for their academy team they shouldn’t pay
whatever his current value is if they wanted to buy him. It’s staggeringly
arrogant and it really does make them look like complete and utter fools. Add
to that it was Arsenal that gave him the chance of first team football, it
was Arsene Wenger who took a chance and allowed his obvious potential to
blossom and it’s Arsenal where he has developed into the player that
everyone talks about as potentially one of the best in the world.
尽管如此,我还是要坦白地说,他们就是一群**。他们真以为他们有资格说这种话?事
实是这样的:塞斯克跟巴萨没有任何合同;他走的时候,巴萨无论在金钱方面(大约50万
英镑的费用)还是竞技方面(一分钱没花就得到了荷兰国脚吉奥瓦尼‧范布隆克霍斯特,
并为他们效力三个赛季之久)都得到了好处。可他们还是天真地以为,因为塞斯克曾经在
他们的青年队效力,所以不管他多值钱,也不能漫天要价,只要巴萨想买,就必须乖乖回
来。他们还真是目中无人到了令人乍舌的程度,怎麽看都像是彻头彻尾的白痴。且不说,
是阿森纳给了他一线队机会,是阿瑟‧温格让他的惊人天赋爆发出来,他在阿森纳成长,
成为人们口中未来的世界第一。
All this is academic anyway. Arsene Wenger will not be letting Cesc leaving
any time soon. However, if it was a case that Cesc said ‘Right, that’s it.
I want to leave’ then given his ability, his future potential and the length
of contract he has then the transfer fee would be enormous. What Barcelona
and Mickey Burgerstain think about that is entirely their business but his
past has no bearing whatsoever on how much he’s worth NOW. Then, to top it
all of, and to make it look like they’re a principled and honourable
organisation he goes on to say about Cesc’s possible return to the club:
无论如何,这些都是理论而已。温格现阶段不可能放走塞斯克。除非哪天他说:「我觉得
是时候了,我要离开。」那麽,按照他的能力、潜力和合同期限,转会费肯定是个天价。
巴萨和贝吉里斯坦怎麽想是他们自己的事情,但是塞斯克「现在」的身价,与他的「过去
」没有任何任何的关系。更可笑的是,为了表现出他们是一个多麽有原则性、多麽令人尊
敬的组织,他居然又开始谈论起塞斯克返回巴萨的可能性:
To start with he would have to show his desire to return.
「首先,他应该展示出他对重返家园的渴望。」
Fucking hell, pathetic. It really is. They have all the morals of a rapist
snake. This idea that Barcelona is a flag bearer for goodness in the game is
so misguided. They are despicable, the way they conduct their business
through the press is no better than Real Madrid and the way they seek to
unsettle players at other clubs (not just Arsenal, just ask any club in Spain
who have had a player linked with them) is about as sporting as I am twenty
feet tall.
(本段略)
Of course they’re helped along the way by the Catalan press who this morning
carry an interview with Cesc about his role in the Spanish team. Check these
questions:
一直为虎作伥的加泰罗尼亚媒体今天早晨采访了塞斯克,话题是他在西班牙队中的角色问
题。我们来看看这些提问吧:
Q: Is it easy to play alongside Iniesta and Xavi?
A: Of course. It’s easy to understand them because we came from the same
football school and we see football the same way.
Q: And would you like to repeat that (from last Saturday against Denmark)
next season at Barcelona along with Deco?
A: I don’t know, that’s the truth.
问:与伊涅斯塔和哈维同场竞技,是不是很舒服?
答:当然。理解起来比较容易,因为我们来自同个足球学校,对足球的理解一脉相承的。
问:那麽下赛季想不想在巴塞罗那重温一下,而且还加上一个德科?.
答:我不知道,就这样。
He then goes on to talk about being a big fan of Deco, but it’s quite clear
what they’re trying to get him to say and you can be quite sure the
headlines would be dripping with Catalan cum if he said it. Jesus Christ
these cunts make me cross. There are things, little things, which annoy the
shit out of me but this is worse than Phil Collins poking me in the ribs
while chewing gum loudly in my ear as the noise from the television is mixed
with that of a radio in the background.
然後他开始谈论自己是德科的超级球迷。但是谁都清楚媒体想诱他说出什麽。你也肯定明
白,如果他说了,第二天加泰罗尼亚报纸上会炮制出什麽样的大标题。上帝保佑,这些无
耻之徒让我不得不在胸前画个十字。有些事情,小事情,会让我怒火中烧,但是这件事简
直比菲尔‧柯林斯(英国歌手,译者注)的歌声戳穿我的肋骨,并且大声嚼口香糖的声音
在我耳中作响,还有电视和收音机的背景噪音加在一起还要让我恶心。
Now, I love Barcelona the city. I lived there for 5 years and it’s a
wonderful place but the football club is the Haliburton of world football. An
odious conglomerate that will cheat, lie and dissemble as it behaves with
less manners than a tramp who charges into a restaurant and pisses on your
main course. Grrrr. Honestly, they do my fucking head in. People might point
to the way they play football and on its own it can be a bit special at
times. However, what they do on the pitch is, for me at least, tainted by the
way they conduct themselves off it. Cunts.
(本段略)
News reaches us from Switzerland (thanks Nicolas) that Philippe Senderos is
going to be out for 1 or 2 weeks with a back injury he picked up at the
weekend. Gallas was on the bench for the French (hah) against the Faroe
Islands so he can’t be too far away. Although it is Raymond Domenech so you
can’t be too sure. We have to hope he is fit because we do lack cover. One
injury leaves us with just two fit centre-halves although we do have Gilberto
who can provide short term cover there.
瑞士传来的消息(感谢尼古拉斯),
菲利普‧森德罗斯本周末背部受伤,会缺阵一到两周
。加拉在法国和法罗群岛的比赛中上了替补名单,因此估计离复出不远了。不过教练是多
梅内克,所以这也说不准。希望他能恢复健康,我们的後防线实在缺乏保护,只有两个健
康的中後卫可用,尽管吉尔伯托也能短期客串。非洲杯快到了,科洛要离开一段时间,如
果温格在冬季就放走吉尔伯托 (
http://tinyurl.com/2vc9xr ),那会让我很意外。
Staying with The Sun it seems that Jens Lehmann’s expecations and Arsene
Wenger’s reality are two different things. They say Almunia will continue in
goal and the German will be allowed to leave in January. I can’t imagine
Jens interview went down too well with the boss, to be honest.
还是太阳报。看来延斯‧莱曼的希望和和阿瑟‧温格的现实是彻底两回事。据说阿穆尼亚
将继续把守大门,而德国人得到许可在一月份离开(
http://tinyurl.com/32bzwf )。说实
话,我想像不出延斯跟教授还能相安无事。
Fran Merida talks to the official site.
弗兰‧梅里达接受了官方网站的采访 (
http://tinyurl.com/2pxa75 )。
And that’s really about it. I need more coffee and less FC Barcelona.
就是这些了。我得多喝点咖啡,少谈点巴塞罗那。
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1F:推 Valeriekuo:标题有杀气! 10/17 18:55
2F:推 muenexp:我自己觉得事情没这麽单纯 巴萨官方的态度更像是针对皇马 10/17 19:20
3F:→ muenexp:因为皇马非常需要法布 巴萨参一脚可以提高他们收购的难度 10/17 19:21
4F:推 muenexp:况且若诉诸情感真的比皇马的两倍报价有用 10/17 19:23
5F:→ muenexp:那已经不是巴萨的问题 而是小法布的问题了 10/17 19:25
6F:推 wadissimo:世界体育报=马卡报 10/17 19:26
7F:→ wadissimo:More than just a Club? More like Real would be it... 10/17 19:26
8F:推 kevinishia:是 Txiki Begiristain,内容上枪手也许会不爽,但至少 10/17 19:57
9F:→ kevinishia:写对人家的名字...(只是对英文发文者) 10/17 19:58
10F:推 Nvboy:楼上歹事 其实arseblog一项幽默到连自己枪迷都不知道XD 10/17 20:24
※ 编辑: Nvboy 来自: 61.59.189.125 (10/17 20:27)
11F:推 wadissimo:意思是这位高官 is talking out of a Mickey 10/17 20:31
12F:推 Nvboy:wado 你的意思是这新闻来源是来自两大烂报? 10/17 20:51
14F:推 Valeriekuo:法布那张图像在笑说: 现在回去? 你见鬼了! 10/17 22:44
15F:推 kevinken:疑 想问一下英文 为什麽这里会想要用cunts? 10/17 23:47
16F:→ kevinken:这是在形容男性的话吗? 话说以此说他们都很娘这样我就信 10/17 23:48
17F:推 Ginola:Cesc的案子巴萨没什好说的,但Merida的确是脱逃,可能会诉 10/18 10:10
18F:推 flyingdog:轻松一点 我发现Arseblog一向很讨厌Phil Collins XDDD 10/18 18:27
19F:推 ryanjet:很正常啊~因为Phil Collins是热刺球迷啊XDD 10/18 23:42