http://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthread.php?t=602658 几个枪手的董事与官员，出席周六上午与枪手各支持者组织代表的对谈。 有个枪迷有出席，回来後贴上这些谈话给其他人看。我选择性的简短翻译一下。 Meeting with Danny Fitzman, Keith Edelman, Officials of Arsenal and other Supporters Representatives posted Yesterday, 05:00 PM BigSoccer Moderator Rick B's Avatar Join Date: Aug 2003 As many know I attended the meeting today and will try and give some information on some of the things I raised and things that were discussed. Emirates Stadium 11am 22nd September 2007 1) Membership packs/Contact with club/Customer Service （这是关於客服的部分，我的会员包也还没收到说，也许该去催客服了） I raised the point near the beginning of the meeting regarding the lack of customer service that Arsenal have given their members, especially their oversea's members. I specifically mentioned names and address's of all those who had contacted me previously to say they had not received their membership packs. Keith Edelman answered my question with the following: Quote: Originally Posted by Keith Edelman At present I am dramatically unhappy with our customer service and it is obvious that our fans [he said customers but got a death stare from Amanda the Press Officer so changed it to fans!!!] are finding it too difficult to contact us and find the right person to contact. We are going to b opening a specific Customer Service centre through which all calls and e-mails will be routed in the New Year. He went on to talk how there will be new technology to make sure all e-mails will be tracked so they do not lose any. 以後俱乐部会加强用电子邮件在客服方面的部分 With regards to the actual Membership packs, Sue Campbell who is the Travel and Supporters Manager asked for all the names which I had printed out and I received an e-mail later telling me all packs had been packaged already to those people and you will receive them in the next two weeks. The simple answer of what had happened before is that when they downloaded the postage labels onto the packs, it didn not include any Countries. This led to very few packs being posted outside the UK. This has now been resolved and I have been asked to keep them up to date with anyone not receiving packs in the future. 2) Ticket Buyback scheme. （这是关於成立一个新的网路平台，球迷们可以在该平台上换票，把自己没法去的票卖给 别人，尤其是有季票的枪迷） This will go live on Thursday next week. It will be ready for the Bolton game. This means a season ticket holder can sell their ticket to the club who will sell it to Red Members. It will be through the internet booking office and will cost season ticket holders 10%. （本周四该平台会开始运作，我想一开始运作一定会有问题...） 3) Clock End Clock （这是提议要把海布里那个大钟挂在酋长球场，Edelman说，把大钟挂在球场上会有安全 考量，尤其是在高的看台上） It was bought up again how we should have the Clock at the stadium. mr Edelman replied that it would not look good aesthetically at The Emirates and therefore in the near future it would not be displayed at the stadium. It could not be on one of the levels for safety reasons. 4) Takeover/Finances （这是大家最想知道，关於收购与财务的事） This was the bit it seemed most people were waiting for and eager to talk about. It mut be noted that today is a Jewish holiday and yet Danny Fitzman made himself available for the meeting which was appreciated by all attendee's. I have some quotes and I will add notes under each one: （这里只有一些简短的引言） Quote: Originally Posted by Danny Fitzman No hostile takeover bid will be successful, but we recognise that the success of the Emirates has caused takeover problems and fears （费资曼：任何恶意收购都不会成功，但是我们明了新球场的成功会造成一些恐惧与问题 ）ps. 这所谓的恐惧，可能是指有投资人或是富豪觊觎。 He added that the have held talks with Kroenke regarding what he has to offer the club and then said 当费资曼被问到他与柯伦柯的会谈情况时 Quote: Originally Posted by Danny Fitzman We are open to anyone who wants to help take the club forward. Regarding the comments of Mr Usmanov yesterday, having a so called "blocking" vote is nonsence. Owning 25% of the shares will only allow you to block special resolutions. In the past 16 years Arsenal have had 2 special resolutions, one is the Emirates and the other a share issue to Granada. Therefore his share holding will not affect the running of Arsenal in any way Mr Edelman said （费资曼：我们对於任何人想帮助俱乐部更往前迈进这件事持开放的态度。关於俄国人昨 天讲的话，他说他想买股权以达到"blocking vote"(否决权?)这件事，根本不正确。拥有 25%的股权只会让你有否决"特别决议案"的权力。过去十六年来董事们只提议过两个特别 决议案，一个是新球场，一个是把股票卖给Granada(应该就是只卖给ITV的那10%股票) 所以俄国人即使有否决权，也不能妨碍到董事会的日常运作。） Quote: Originally Posted by Keith Edelman It is not the right way to run a football club with a Billionaire. Quite simply they see it as an investment and want to make a profit. The current board are fans of Arsenal and see this club as part of their family （爱德曼：让亿万富豪来经营球会是不正确的。原因很简单，因为他们是为了投资与获利 而来，目前的董事们是枪迷，且把俱乐部当作是家族成员。） I then asked the following question to Danny:（接着有代表问费资曼） "As we know the board have an agreement in place not to dispose of any shares before April 2008. At that point we could well be in the midst of an important part of the season where it is important not to have outside interruptions affecting the squad, not to mention the media interest will heighten the nearer to the date we come. Will the board be announcing a timetable of their intentions to either extend this agreement or alter it in a timely manner so as to cause least disruption to the Squad?" （我们都知道董事们之前所签的一年内不买卖股票的同意书，在08年四月会失效，到时刚 好是赛季最关键的时候，媒体也会纷纷的在这件事加油添醋。董事们是否有计画，在时间 到之前看是延长该同意书或是对部分条文作更动，以免影响球队的稳定？） Quote: Originally Posted by Danny Fitzman It's simple, in principle I am not a seller. There is a new agreement at the moment being written that will extend the agreement for a further 12 months. This will be announced so as to cause the least disruption on the Club. （费资曼回答：很简单，我不是个卖股票的人。现在已经有一份新的同意书在研拟中，基 本上会把目前的协议在延长十二个月。届时我们会宣布新的同意书。） He was then asked a question on the tax issue which I have gone over on this board before. His answer and really I think he would know the answer not anyone else was: （接着费资曼被问到，关於他之前为了节税把股票卖掉的事，他说出了很有可能是外人都 不知道的事） Quote: Originally Posted by Danny Fitzman The tax stuff being written is just nonsense. I am a non-resident and have been since 2004. That affects nothing, if I wanted to sell I would be paying tax at 10% after taper relief. having sports journalists writing about tax and business means you wll never get the full picture in thre media. The next few questions came regarding finance: （费资曼回答：那些关於税务的传闻根本是胡说，我从2004年就不是英国的居民，这不会 影响到任何事情(可能指税务)，我如果要卖持股，我反而要多付10%的taper relief税。 如果光凭这些体育记者所写关於财经的报导，你永远都不会有一亏全貌的机会。） Mr Edelman said that we are in an extremely strong financial position. We certainly do not need outside investment and the debt that we have is at a very low interest rate. He told us we have 210M GBP at 5.14% and 60M GBP at 5.6% which is over 25 years. He said that it is one of the best loans there is and that it is nothing like Manchester United who had to pay 80M GBP in interest to service their debt and have done that through ticket price increases. The figures will be released on Monday and will show Arsenal are in a supurb position. 爱德曼接着说，球会目前的财务状况很好。球会不需要任何的外资，而目前建球场的债务 ，其实利息很低。两亿一千万镑债的利息只有5.14%，另外六千万镑的利息是5.6%，总共 偿还期是25年。俱乐部目前的债务，比起相较於曼联曾经一度要还八千万镑年利息，还得 靠调高季票票价的状况好许多。周一球会就会发布财报，显示枪手的财务状况有多好。 When asked about Arsene Wenger and David Dein the answer was from Danny Ftzman 接着董事们被问到迪恩与温格之间的事 Quote: Originally Posted by Danny Fitzman The public perception was that David did everything at the club, this was not the case at all. Arsene Wenger will finish his career at Arsenal, we always knew this was the case. With regards to transfers, only one guy decides - Arsene. We are in a very strong financial situation and if he wanted to spend 100M GBP, he could. he decides whether a players fee and salary is worth it. It is his decision and his decision only. （费资曼回答：外界的印象是迪恩处理俱乐部大大小小的事，这根本不是实情。温格会在 枪手结束他的经理人生涯，这是我们都知道的事。至於签人的事，只有一个人可以决定 --温格。俱乐部目前的财务状况很强健，如果温格要花一亿英镑，他的确可以。温格决 定球员的转会费与薪资是否值得他出手，自始自终只有一个人可以在这方面作决定，那 就是温格。） Danny then told us two quotes from Arsene from the meeting last week. The first was 接着费资曼引用了两句他上周与温格开会时，温格所说的话（这部分就好笑了） "Can we say we are poor because that perception helps me when buying players" 温格：我们可以说我们很穷吗？这样可以造成假象方便我们买球员。 XDD and 还有 "I did aspire to buy Eto'o, thank god I didn't as his injuries are a problem" 温格：我本来真的要买埃图。谢天谢地我没有这样做，他的伤病问题可能会变成我的问题 。 XDDDDD 接下来是关於票价等其他事情，请各位自己看吧 5) Ticket Prices Quote: Originally Posted by Keith Edelman We will look in the New Year at ticket prices, we will not do huge increases, it will be around inflation 6) Setanta in the USA As this is a new venture it really depends on whether the US broadcasters pick this up. There is no news as of yet about this, but when there is we will certainly let you know. 7) Scarves on Champions League nights The club has said they recognise this has created a good atmousphere and has gone down well. Therefore on home CL nights the Red and White scarfs will be available in club shops for 5GBP so as to keep on creating this atmousphere. The meeting then ended with drinks and sandwhiches. --------- 终於，之前很少作公关的董事们出来澄清几件事，有些是还是得讲清楚 要不然都是记者乱猜或是某人在乱放消息 另外，温格也实在太勤俭 球会要发布好消息的财报，他还在想着装穷好在签人时杀价用 XD There is only one Arsene Wenger. --

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