: 推 Reyes:还有霍耶特... 我们比国米还国际 07/31 12:46 : 推 u1302094:限制的是「青训」球员 不以国籍而以是否为青训产品为标准 07/31 18:03 : 推 dreamender:为啥我们青训出来的"好"球员都这样一个个想出走 07/31 18:05 : 推 Walcott:不要忘记我 07/31 18:38 : 推 Noel:青训好球员出走的本土球员居多 07/31 19:01 : 推 u1302094:四楼的你不算XD UEFA的定义是要在同一家球会待三季以上 07/31 21:44 : 推 wadissimo:http://www.uefa.com/newsfiles/19071.pdf 有分'club- 08/01 03:25 : → wadissimo:trained player'与'association-trained player',可以看 08/01 03:26 : 推 wadissimo:15.08条开始有关List A与List B的规定,也许哇靠算是合规 08/01 03:30 : → wadissimo:定(不确定,规定条文看起来好复杂...),不过这规定要求球 08/01 03:31 : → wadissimo:员是从满15岁开始算,哇靠才满十七岁才几个月,也许不能算 08/01 03:35 : → wadissimo:是合规定 08/01 03:36 : 推 Supasizeit:gilbert不是你们家青训的吗 08/01 13:42 : 推 clenny:他租出去了 这样还算吗？ 08/01 14:56 做了一下小调查，有误请指正，不完全确定我以下讲的是否完全正确。 关於本赛季欧冠对於本土球员的资格定义与规定： Conditions for Registration: List A（关於A名单） 15.08 Each club may not have more than 25 players on List A during the season. As a minimum, places 22 to 25 on List A (four places) are reserved exclusively for “locally trained players” and each club may not have more than two “association-trained players” listed in places 22 to 25 on List A. List A must specify the four players who qualify as being “locally trained”, as well as whether they are “club-trained” or “association-trained”. The possible combinations that enable clubs to comply with the List A requirements are set out in Annex X. （每个参赛球会最多能申报二十五位球员，其中有四个要合乎UEFA对於本土球员资格 定义。这四个球员中，最多只能有两个足协训练球员。交名单时必须注明哪些球员符 合"名单A"的资格，且是合乎"球会训练球员"还是"足协训练球员"的资格） 15.09 A“locally trained player” is either a “club-trained player” or an “ association-trained player”. （本土训练球员可以是"球会训练球员"，或是"足协训练球员"） 15.10 A“club-trained player” is a player who – irrespective of his nationality and age – has been registered with his current club for a period, continuous or not, of three entire seasons (i.e. a period starting with the first official match of the relevant national league championship and ending with the last official match of that relevant national championship) or of 36 months between the age of 15 (or the start of the season during which the player turns 15) and 21 (or the end of the season during which the player turns 21). （一个所谓"球会训练球员"的定义是，无关国籍与年纪，只要在15岁与21岁期间，曾经在 该球会待过，不管是连续或是间断，整整三个赛季。） 15.11 An “association-trained player” is a player who – irrespective of his nationality and age – has been registered with a club or with other clubs affiliated to the same national association as that of his current club for a period, continuous or not, of three entire seasons or of 36 months between the age of 15 (or the start of the season during which the player turns 15) and 21 (or the end of the season during which the player turns 21). （一个"足协训练球员"的定义是，无关国籍与年纪，只要在15岁与21岁期间，曾经在现役 球会所属的同一个足协注册，不管是连续或是间断，整整三个赛季。） 15.12 In the event that a club has less than four locally trained players in its squad (i.e. in places 22 to 25 on List A), then the maximum number of players on List A shall be reduced accordingly. Furthermore, in the event that a club lists a player in places 22 to 25 on List A who does not fulfil the conditions set out in this article, then that player will not be eligible to participate for the club in the UEFA club competition(s) in question and the club will be unable to replace that player on List A. （这条看不太懂，意思是如果该球会申报二十五人名单中，合乎A名单资格的如果少於四 人，或是申报球员的四名球员中如有人资格不服，就根本不能出赛？这样看来，就算一 支球会凑不出A名单的四人，还是一样可以报上其他二十一人名单参赛欧冠？这段落的头 一句也是颇费思量，难道这条规定是一条但书，可以给有困难的球会个别考量？） Conditions for registration: List B（B名单的规定） 15.13 Each club is entitled to register an unlimited number of players on List B during the season. （每支球会可以注册不限人数的B名单球员） 15.14 A player may be registered on List B if he is born on or after 1 January 1985 and has been eligible to play for the club concerned for any uninterrupted period of two years since his 15th birthday by the time he is registered with UEFA. （B名单球员必须是一九八五年一月一日当日或以後出生，在该球员满十五岁生日後， 该球会连续不间断地待满两年，且在UEFA有注册。） 对於要打欧冠第三轮资格赛的球队，二十五人名单最迟得在 3 August 2006 (24.00 hours CET)送出。 算下来合乎List A，也就是年纪在十五岁於二十一岁间，间断或连续地，在枪手待满三年 ，或是在英足总注册满三年的现役枪手球员有八个： Sebastian Larsson Born: June 06, 1985 Joined: August 01, 2001 Gael Clichy Born: July 26, 1985 Joined: August 04, 2003 Philippe Senderos Born: February 14, 1985 Joined: June 01, 2003 Justin Hoyte Born: November 20, 1984 Joined: August 01, 2001 Jeremie Aliadiere Born: 30/03/1983 Joined Arsenal: 01/03/2000 Johan Djourou Born: 18/01/1987 Joined: August 01, 2003 Francesc Fabregas Born: May 04, 1987 Joined: September 11, 2003 Kerrea Gilbert Born: February 28, 1987 Joined: August 01, 2003 (外借卡尔 地夫) Theo Walcott Born: March 16, 1989 Joined: January 20, 2006 哇靠的是否合於List A资格就比较难厘清，他满十五岁时应该是03-04赛季，到现在他应 该也在英足总注册有三赛季了，不知道他算不算是个"association-trained球员"。 在这里姑且算他是个List A球员好了。前面八个球员，加进哇靠算九个。 算下来合乎List B，也就是年纪在十五岁於二十一岁间，出生於1985年一月一日或是之後 ，在枪手待满两年年，或是在英足总注册满两年，现役枪手球员有四个： Arturo Lupoli Born: June 24, 1987 Joined: July 01, 2004 Fabrice Muamba Born: April 06, 1988 Joined: August 01, 2004 (外借伯名 罕) Nicklas Bendtner Born: January 16, 1988 Joined: August 01, 2004 Matthew Connolly Born: September 24, 1987 Joined: August 01, 2004 B名单的球员只要仍注册在英足协，再过一年仍然可以算是A名单球员。 算一算温格可能会报上去的名单大概像这样，红色的A名单球员，黄色的是B名单。在此先 把柯尔拿掉，原因大家都知道，且看来他很可能会离开枪手。这可能的大名单如下： *Lehmann *Kolo *Gilberto *Henry *Almunia *Senderos *Cesc *Adebayor *Poom *Lauren *Rosicky *RVP *Clichy *Hleb *Reyes *Cygan *Ljunberg *Aliadiere *Eboue *Flamini *Walcott *Djourou *Song *Lupoli Gilbert(外借) Larsson Bendtner *Hoyte Diaby (伤) Connolly Muamba(外借) A.Traore 打*号的是我认为会报上去的二十五人，Diaby暂且不考虑，等他伤好竞技状态回复 大概都是明年的事。Armand Traore应该只待一季多吧，连B名单都算不上，虽然我觉得他 最近的热身赛表现不错。如果温格在夏季转会窗口前又签进有实力打一队的球员，可能 就得在欧冠名单上有所拿捏，二十五人里面起码得有四个红色的，四个红色的里面又 得要至少有两个是枪手自己青训满三年的（哇靠目前算是足协训练的）。此外，枪手在把 球员外借到像是苏超时，也得仔细考虑一下才行。 --

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