作者tunababy (相信你自己,真的....)
看板Angels
标题Re: [心得] 2013开季闲聊(四)...
时间Sun Aug 25 12:33:43 2013
这应该是今天最热门的天使新闻了....
这个报导对Arte非常凶悍....
http://0rz.tw/nUTnS
取了重点....(其实hunter和Pujols对干)根本都不是重点....
Since his first full year as owner of the Angels in 2004, Moreno has fired
close to 40 members of the front office, baseball operations department and
scouting and medical staffs. The Angels maintain a skeletal front-office
staff in many areas, and one of the leanest game-day staffs in all of
baseball. If someone is let go, there often is no replacement hired. Moreno
is said to gouge hours from his low-paid employees.
As for the club being on-deck to miss the playoffs for a fourth consecutive
year, many in the organization thought the team needed more pitching help
rather than Pujols during the winter of 2011-2012 when Moreno decided on the
Cardinals free agent. After all, the Angels at that point already had a
slugging first baseman in Kendrys Morales.
Last winter, many key members of the baseball operations department wanted to
make more of an effort to re-sign Zack Greinke, but it was Moreno who steered
them to free agent Josh Hamilton.
Though he has spent millions on players, including a record $153 million on
this year's payroll, many people both inside and outside of the Angels
organization agree that Moreno's reign of terror has created obstacles not
only impossible for the club to overcome, but ones that have shifted the
Angels into reverse.
When the decision was made to pursue Vernon Wells from Toronto before the
2011 season, a move Scioscia is said to have endorsed, it was Moreno, one
source says, who threatened then-GM Tony Reagins with a firing if Reagins
didn't consummate the deal within 24 hours. Moreno is described as being
chapped at having lost free agent Adrian Beltre to the Rangers roughly two
weeks earlier, and that helps explain why, in an agreement that utterly
stunned almost everybody in the game, the Angels agreed to pay all but $5
million of the $86 million to a player that Toronto was so eager to offload
that the Jays surely could have been persuaded to pay millions more.
“Arte needs to stay out of the baseball business,” one baseball person
says. “Arte thinks he knows the game. He doesn't know the game. He only
knows the money, the business side.”
Moreno grandiosely awarded Scioscia an unheard-of 10-year deal before the
2009 season. Now the longest-tenured manager in the game, Scioscia led the
club to the 2002 World Series title – before Moreno became owner, though
Moreno accompanied the club on its celebratory White House visit in May,
2003, shortly after he purchased the club – but the length of that contract
has hamstrung the organization in other ways.
Chiefly, it centered the organization's power structure in the manager's
office (and the owner's chair). Now, after Moreno fired Reagins and hired
Jerry Dipoto as GM before the 2011 season, the most dysfunctional manager-GM
relationship in the game rages onward. The situation probably became
irreparable the moment Dipoto blindsided Scioscia by firing hitting coach
Mickey Hatcher without the manager's knowledge last May.
It has become a miserable situation, several sources say, and as colleague
Jon Heyman notes, something has to give.
Meanwhile, others within the organization worry over where the money can
possibly come from to keep young superstar Mike Trout a lifelong Angel. With
millions upon millions already committed to Pujols, Hamilton, Wilson and
Weaver, many wonder how the club will possibly be able to produce the
Brinks-truck full of cash it will take to keep Trout.
And all the while, with Pujols out for the season and Hamilton slogging
through a lost season, the losses mount.
※ 引述《tunababy (相信你自己,真的....)》之铭言:
: 如果你看payroll的话,其实你就会跟我一样对天使未来几年很不乐观...
: 这是Cot's Baseball contracts的资料...
: http://0rz.tw/DADP6
: 签下转播权後,我们今年把我们的payroll砍到137M.今年打成这样,不用讲,我们有一堆洞
: 明年想要玩的话,那一定要补洞.那如果你知道我们明年的payroll已经是131M基本的时候
: ,我想你一定会笑不出来,然後我们明年有3支要开始Arb 1,分别是Frieri,Boujos,Trumbo,
: 今年的惨状,明年肯定会想要补个投手,总不可能前三号是Weaver/CJ/Richard,然後也许
: 补支牛,最後最重要的,就是跟trout签长约.
: 这些加一加,明年破150M大概很基本吧....
: 签下转播权後砍payroll,这个意思我会解读我愿意花的钱有限,所以Arte会用多少钱补洞
: 我很怀疑...
: Arte当然也可以不补,但结果肯定比今年更惨,就像我前面讲的,你就是把Weaver/Hamilton/
: Pujols/Cj的钱丢进水里.
: 我只能讲,你上了贼船,就得玩到底,如果Arte没想清楚这点,还想"省钱"的话,那省了点小钱
: ,付出的代价会更大...
: 如果在看远一点,目前的薪资结构,就是2015 howie 约到期,2016 aybar/CJ/Weaver
: 约到期.如果你去看看我们现在的农场,2B/SS/SP基本上没什麽货,要在那时候接上这几支,
: 基本上很难,这什麽意思呢,就是如果Arte还是想省钱,不想花钱在FA处理SP/RP的问题,然後
: 打算用交易的话,可能的结果就是会有更多的洞在那里等着.不夸张,可能至少5年都没有竞
: 争力.
: 所以我们是有钱的球队,该做的就是在FA花钱,而不是乱交易一通,然後要避免连续好几年在
: FA都签一个会浪废选秀权的FA,不然的话,我们农场会永远空着,每年都payroll很高,然後战
: 绩很烂.
: 所以其实昨天Grant Green的交易其实是很重要的,因为我们终於有mlb ready的2B在高阶
: 农场系统里面.假如他有机会能站稳,那我们是可以试着交易Howie去换投手回来.(虽然後来
: 看到一些评论不是那麽乐观).
: 当然,花了钱可能也是没结果,但不花钱的话,肯定会连烂好几年,那就看Arte想不想的开了..
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