作者timchen (Happy Days~)
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标题[讨论]一个UW教授对中国CS领域的看法
时间Sun Jan 1 04:08:20 2012
JAMES LANDAY 在 MSRA 待了两年半後，对中国环境及教育的一些看法
http://dubfuture.blogspot.com/2011/12/china-will-overtake-us-in.html
里面最让我震惊的是下面这段
One of the major differences I’ve noted between Chinese universities
(and in fact Chinese organizations in general) and American universities
is the power structure exposed in the academic hierarchy.
American universities are hierarchical in that Full Professors make decisions
about Associate and Assistant Professors, and Associate Professors in turn
also make decisions (e.g., tenure) about Assistant Professors. But, I’ve also
noticed that in the top departments I’ve been in that the more “senior”
faculty understand that a lot of the innovation and best work occurs in the
groups led by the “young” Assistant Professors and we in fact “protect”
them so as to allow them to better develop and get this great work accomplished
(e.g., we do not give them a lot of tedious committee work to do and we
encourage them to teach advanced courses in their specialized areas rather than
large, general undergraduate courses).
(在台湾，似乎是完全相反，杂事永远都是新进教授在做…而经费/学生资源也都掌握在一
些资深的教授手上…真是令人难过…)
当然，我不觉得人类有这麽善良，不过在我对这段话提出疑问後，我的 mentor 和他的朋
友们 (美国大学的 CS 教授们) 倒是都不约而同的提到他们对新进教授们都很保护。也提
到在美国的研究型大学都是如此。
不知道大家遇到/听到的状况是否也都是如此呢？
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1F：→ chenCT:应该是看学校和主事者 01/01 08:49
2F：→ chenCT:有听说有些学校会让资深教授组成一个教学组 教导年轻老师 01/01 08:50
3F：→ chenCT:怎样分配教学跟研究时间, 以及如何有效率的完成申请的计画 01/01 08:51
4F：→ chenCT:或是如何拿钱等等... 但当然也听过跟极尽所能压榨新进老师 01/01 08:51
5F：→ chenCT:的学程或研究单位 01/01 08:52
6F：→ lomaka:有啊... 但是已经十年以上没拿过国科会计画、没有SCI论文的 01/01 12:34
7F：→ lomaka:资深教授指导完，你觉得有什麽帮助? 01/01 12:35
8F：→ lomaka:指导完,就是你写一个计画给他批改,然後他当主持人你当共同 01/01 12:36
9F：推 hkw:true for major universities.. this is why they become 01/01 14:11
10F：→ hkw:better and better.. 01/01 14:12
11F：推 pttptt2009:lomaka真是一针见血，道破大老横走学术、小咖只能靠边 01/01 23:45
12F：→ pttptt2009:站的现象。 01/01 23:45
13F：→ firekylin:It's true, at least, in my university. 01/02 10:24
14F：推 ggg12345:洋人亲疏较淡薄也看重天才,爱惜天才.能容天才溢格而出! 01/02 11:40
15F：→ ggg12345:天才常会有内在无法消除的驱动力,相对就缺常人都有的私心 01/02 11:45
16F：→ ggg12345:所以Apple Jobs很确定亚洲各国无法迳自超越他设计的产品 01/02 11:51