作者staringsky (邓天空)
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标题Re: [闲聊] 以後不能用TOEFL申请英签
时间Wed Apr 23 14:50:31 2014
原文恕删
小弟昨晚收到学校(LBS)的回覆
结论是LBS的学生并不会受到这次事件的影响
从内容看起来学校应该是已经知道了4/17的新消息
经过判断才回覆我的问题
内容重点在於LBS相对於其他学校可能有比较高的权限
(或许是因为它是Higher Education Institute的关系?)
因此有权力独立评估学生的英文能力
第二是LBS似乎不打算在CAS上特别加注学生语言能力测验的结果
因为学校认为他当初用了比较全面的方法来评估学生的英文能力
以下附上信件来回的内容供大家参考
两造双方:
小弟我以S代表
回覆问题的人是LBS的Senior Manager for Visa Compliance and Financial Aid
以H代表
(Posted: 17:29 | 19/04/14)
Title: Concern about Using TOEFL score to apply for student visa
Hi H,
This is S from Taiwan, a student of MiM 2015.
I took a TOEFL exam in last June and used it to apply for LBS MiM programme.
However, I just noticed the recent announcements of UK Border Agency and of
ETS. ETS' SELT license seems to have been cancelled by UK Home Office on 4/5.
Therefore, I am wondering whether I can use my TOEFL score to obtain a CAS
letter and apply for the student visa. In my understanding, some people on
the Internet said that their visa applications had been suspended by UKBA
because they had used TOEFL or TOEIC as proof of English proficiency. Also,
some admitted students of UK schools have been asked to take an IELTS exam to
replace their TOEFL grades.
Thus, I am wondering whether LBS will cancel its sponsorship of visa for
students who used TOEFL as proof of English ability in their admission
application. If so, I believe that I will need to prepare for and take an
IELTS test as soon as possible in order to obtain the student visa before my
departure from my home country in mid-July. Please kindly provide the
detailed update about the current situation of this issue.
Many thanks!
S
(Posted: 08:44 | 22/04/14 )
Re: Concern about Using TOEFL score to apply for student visa
Hi S,
Thanks for your query. The short answer is that there is no change to what
you need to do, and certainly no need to take an additional English language
test.
The longer answer is that there are two different issues here 1) What does
LBS use to confirm your English is a sufficient standard? and 2) What does
the UK Home Office require in terms of confirmation that your English is a
sufficient standard?
In terms of point 1 - our requirements have not changed and are independent
of anything set by the Home Office. If your English is judged to be of the
required standard - demonstrated through your TOEFL, application, interviews
etc, then this is what your offer at LBS has been based on.
In terms of point 2 - LBS is permitted within the regulations of the Home
Office to make its own judgement of students' English language competency. We
don't specifically state your TOEFL or TOEIC scores as we use a more holistic
approach to confirming your competency. As such, the change to the Home
Office approach has had no impact on the way in which LBS confirms English
language competence.
I hope that helps - let me know if you have any questions.
Kind regards
H
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1F:推 mydreamcome :推!! 04/23 17:47
2F:→ mydreamcome :考雅思比较简单,可以到IELTS板搜寻"心得",有很多技巧 04/23 17:58
3F:推 m800728m :所以是只有LBS有权利不鸟Home Office吗...... 04/23 18:57
4F:→ staringsky :其实我不知道背後的原因欸 可能跟HEI有关吧 04/23 20:12
5F:→ staringsky :可以问问学校能不能这样处理 04/23 20:12
6F:→ Invec :一票学校都是HEI LBS并没有比较特别 04/24 00:26
7F:→ jean950030 :信没有特别指出LBS有高於他校的权限,大家都算HEI吧 04/24 02:25
8F:→ jean950030 :英国教育系统中,Secondary schools以上,,能授予正 04/24 02:33
9F:→ jean950030 :位的教育机构都是Higher education Institutions 04/24 02:37
10F:→ jean950030 :所以板上大多数都是去念HEI的课程。 04/24 02:38
11F:→ ahyang :still not very sure if the CAS by LBS will not 04/24 07:15
12F:→ ahyang :state TOEFL 'score' or no english test of any 04/24 07:16
13F:→ ahyang :kind... but this means the school will try to 04/24 07:17
14F:→ ahyang :assist you to avoid the need to take new english 04/24 07:17
15F:→ ahyang :test whatever they can. 04/24 07:18
16F:→ staringsky :等我五月多拿到CAS再看看上面有没有注记TOEFL成绩吧 04/24 08:36
17F:推 mic2hael :明天就要签证...不知道该不该去... 04/24 12:36
18F:推 rover10 :楼上去帮大家探探路? 04/24 12:38
19F:→ ahyang :@原po:HEI以自己的方式评量语言能力(以及学习进度 04/25 02:49
20F:→ ahyang :)通常是针对已经入学的学生,需要延签时,学校发的 04/25 02:50
21F:→ ahyang :新CAS只会说明学校认可学生的学习表现和语言能力,所 04/25 02:51
22F:→ ahyang :以不会另列任何语言测验成绩,或者重复列出入学时采 04/25 02:51
23F:→ ahyang :用的语言测验成绩或认可语言能力用的学位。以你新入 04/25 02:52
24F:→ ahyang :学的情况,可能还有变数。可能要有心理准备。 04/25 02:52
25F:→ staringsky :嗯 我了解 只有LBS说不受影响确实是蛮令人质疑的 04/25 08:54
26F:→ staringsky :等我五月多拿到CAS再po上来跟众板友讨论看看 04/25 08:55