作者vvmafwcx (vvmafwcx)
看板ONE_OK_ROCK
标题[心得] 20 years journey IMO
时间Sun Dec 22 16:29:08 2024
Let me share some honest thoughts:
If they truly want to make a name for themselves overseas and gain recognition
in the international market, there’s more to it than just excelling in conce
rts. For instance, increasing their presence in INTERNATIONAL MAGAZINES and TV
SHOWS is crucial. Their choice of mainstream pop music style isn’t the issue
; the challenge lies in establishing themselves as a band in this market and m
aintaining long-term attention. To do so, they’ll need even more staying powe
r compared to bands from Western countries.
Because they come from Asia, many might project their understanding of Japan o
r their love for anime culture onto them. However, as I see it, they were once
known for their rebellious attitude in Japan’s rock music scene—an attitude
that contrasts sharply with how most people perceive them now. They were neve
r fond of being compared to Japan’s mainstream music; rather, they preferred
to create the kind of music they truly wanted and pursue their own path. This
is my take on their collaboration with Sonic. It’s not that there’s anything
wrong with liking anime, but I’m still looking forward to seeing what their
next collaboration with other anime characters will look like.
Therefore, their frequency and choice of appearances in international media wi
ll greatly influence the direction of their overseas market strategy and their
ability to gain attention. The scariest shortcut is undoubtedly the MEDIA. I
believe this was a crucial resource their previous label failed to provide, wh
ich hindered their ability to establish a stronger foothold in the U.S. market
. As a label representing an Asian band, they should have had better resources
and knowledge to support them, rather than comparing them to bands under othe
r labels and downplaying their uniqueness.
Moreover, there might have been communication issues during the album producti
on process. For example, members who are less fluent in English may not have b
een able to fully showcase their talents in the production. This is why the ra
w groove we heard in Deeper Deeper (a song written by Tomoya and Ryota) is som
ething we rarely hear in their albums anymore—even though the live performanc
es give a completely different auditory experience.
From my understanding, anyone who listens to ONE OK ROCK likely has some level
of appreciation for Japanese bands. In their history, it was undoubtedly the
Japanese audience that brought them to the Budokan, which is why we can still
buy that DVD today. Back then, their listeners must have also had some knowled
ge of Japan’s entertainment scene to choose and support them, leading to thei
r rise to the Yokohama Arena and becoming one of Japan’s most popular bands a
t the time.
Because of their hard work and talent, they kept breaking barriers, even with
many senior bands ahead of them (e.g., Pay Money to My Pain, ELLEGARDEN). They
managed to earn recognition from these pioneers in the music scene. This jour
ney wasn’t just about expanding their market through overseas performances; i
t proved that they aren’t just J-ROCK—they are ONE OK ROCK.
Sometimes I wonder what “overseas” really means to them. Ten years ago, the
music they made had already achieved international success, so I don’t unders
tand why they didn’t continue making that kind of music. If “overseas” to t
hem simply means collaborating with foreign artists, then in this day and age,
everyone is essentially an international artist. I feel like this question is
n’t something I could ask Taka—maybe asking Toru would make more sense. I ju
st wanted to highlight that Toru’s role in music production is just as signif
icant as Taka’s, but there are rarely opportunities to interview him, whether
in Japanese or English.
Considering Japanese TV programs, I think that in the past, when they appeared
on shows like band-related variety programs or radio shows, it was always abo
ut the interaction of the whole band. It wasn’t like now, where only Taka doe
s all the explaining and speaking on programs. This is one of the reasons I be
lieve the changes in the industry have silently influenced them. Well, the rea
son I’m saying all this is because they’re about to establish their own LABE
L in JAPAN, and all of this will likely become part of their plan. It’s a bra
nd-new and completely different challenge for them.
Plus, maybe their past approach of collaborating with many different people he
lped them expand their market, but I think they now need a completely new dire
ction in their production. Previously, they held the VS concert with My First
Story at Tokyo Dome under the name of their independent label, 10969inc. I bel
ieve this series of new projects will give us an entirely different experience
compared to everything they’ve done with other companies and labels, the exc
iting part is that all these experiences will be condensed into their brand-ne
w venture. Naturally, we won’t have to question anymore whether they are stil
l themselves.
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1F:推 nanosoftGG : 确实OOR在媒体的能见度真的没很高,这真的需要改善 12/22 18:23
2F:→ nanosoftGG : 但很大一部分是TAKA也不太想上媒体 12/22 18:24
3F:推 ASKAmkII : 有种「引领音乐是绝对的主流没错」,但除了他们自己 12/22 21:49
4F:→ ASKAmkII : 的社群媒体之外,其实很难得知,或说认识更多的他 12/22 21:50
5F:→ ASKAmkII : 们的感觉 12/22 21:51
6F:→ vvmafwcx : Taka不想上的话换Toru上咧(误 12/22 23:14
9F:→ vvmafwcx : 大大这个info真没看过 看来DC上都在自欺欺人 12/23 15:30
10F:→ fddk : 在推(X)上看过;话说RAD真是挺厉害的 12/23 15:48
11F:推 ASKAmkII : 会不会是因为前一张专辑有点掉粉 12/23 18:34
12F:→ ASKAmkII : 因为我身边还真的有因为前一张掉粉,而且完全没有 12/23 18:35
13F:→ ASKAmkII : 兴趣听Luxury Disease的朋友 12/23 18:35
14F:推 taiwanstrike: 楼上 我也有朋友是这样 我自己也不是很喜欢EOTS那 12/24 03:02
15F:→ taiwanstrike: 张就是了 12/24 03:03
16F:推 ASKAmkII : 榜单上让我感到很好奇的是 Radwimps 应该是有一段 12/24 08:12
17F:→ ASKAmkII : 时间没有新专辑了,却还有前十,是否是因为他们制作 12/24 08:13
18F:→ ASKAmkII : 了不少原声带的缘故(例如我常用天气之子OST当工作 12/24 08:14
19F:→ ASKAmkII : 背景音乐) 12/24 08:14
20F:→ vvmafwcx : 掉出榜单後可以开始制作非主流作品了吧笑 12/24 12:12
21F:→ fddk : 刚好友看到yt做这个题目、似乎是印度贡献不少RAD的 12/26 01:19
22F:→ fddk : 刚好有* 只是原因不明XD 12/26 01:26
23F:→ vvmafwcx : 这串是可以继续讨论的吗? 12/26 19:04
24F:→ vvmafwcx : 前几年SS他们上台的那个口罩争议有人知道是甚麽状况 12/26 19:05
25F:→ vvmafwcx : 吗?(summer sonic 12/26 19:06
26F:→ fddk : 争议?是说Taka会照样煽动观众吗 12/26 19:48
27F:→ fddk : 虽然禁止出声但他演出的时候还是会叫大家唱啊喊的 12/26 19:50
28F:→ fddk : 不过他也有说大家不用喊、他只是想照正常表演XD 12/26 19:57
29F:→ vvmafwcx : 我也觉得是为了表演、日本国内的舆论好像很多... 12/26 20:26
30F:→ vvmafwcx : 这一定有影响到当时新专辑的宣传吧 12/26 20:26
31F:→ fddk : 那他出来讲政治应该也有XD 12/26 21:20
32F:→ vvmafwcx : 叛逆中年人xD 12/27 06:55
33F:→ vvmafwcx : 看到这篇被推波到别的地方、、 01/04 19:44
34F:→ vvmafwcx : 说明一下这个是跟OOR海外论坛一起讨论出来的 01/04 19:45